Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest

[der affe]

i am also not a huge fan of open carry.
while i used to do it before i got my CCW, i honestly felt better carrying when other people could not see that i was.

there are people out there who will see open carry as a personal challange to them and cause you problems. that does not mean that you should outlaw open carry, but i found it socially easier to carry conceiled.

i have been in situations where i have had to produce my weapon, and have been glad that i had it. i think things would have gone down differently if i was open carry, i honestly can't say if it would have been better or worse, but with a visable side arm, things would have been different.

[Massive Lee]

I wouldn't be comfortable walking beside a man carrying an assault weapon at a rally. I understand it is legal, but is it really necessary? The guy carrying an AK47 might be level headed and making a statemement, or could be a nutcase on a rampage, thirsty for blood. How should I know before the worst can happen?

Just my 02 cents.

[iamsam]

I wouldn't be comfortable walking beside a man carrying an assault weapon at a rally. I understand it is legal, but is it really necessary? The guy carrying an AK47 might be level headed and making a statemement, or could be a nutcase on a rampage, thirsty for blood. How should I know before the worst can happen?

Just my 02 cents.

would you be comfortable walking beside me (hypothetically) if i were carrying my Glock 9mm concealed under my shirt? probably. If i strapped it to the outside of my shirt than would you be comfortable then?

In either case, i could be a "nutcase on a rampage, thirsty for blood", yet only the sight of the gun makes you uncomfortable. While this makes sense, it is still an interesting thought.

just my 02 cents.

[hot karl marx]

I wouldn't be comfortable walking beside a man carrying an assault weapon at a rally. I understand it is legal, but is it really necessary? The guy carrying an AK47 might be level headed and making a statemement, or could be a nutcase on a rampage, thirsty for blood. How should I know before the worst can happen?

Just my 02 cents.

Its legal to own, so whats the difference btw that and carrying? If he was really crazed and on a rampage, it wouldnt matter if he were carrying at the rally or not. He has a gun and he run up in the rally and kill everyone anyway, carrying or not.

[Massive Lee]

Its legal to own, so whats the difference btw that and carrying? If he was really crazed and on a rampage, it wouldnt matter if he were carrying at the rally or not. He has a gun and he run up in the rally and kill everyone anyway, carrying or not.

We agree on the legality to own a gun. Now let's check how far we carry it. Would you, per exemple, walk into a kindergarden, and show you AK47 or Glock to all the toddlers and have them touch it?

You want to carry a gun? Great. Carry it to the shooting range or to the repair shop. But no need to bring it ito a public area not related to gun ownership (like a shooting range).

[Pinepig]

We agree on the legality to own a gun. Now let's check how far we carry it. Would you, per exemple, walk into a kindergarden, and show you AK47 or Glock to all the toddlers and have them touch it?

You want to carry a gun? Great. Carry it to the shooting range or to the repair shop. But no need to bring it ito a public area not related to gun ownership (like a shooting range).

The 2nd wasn't written for sporting purposes.

I'm certain a guy with an AR ( not an evil baby killing AK ;) ) on his back in open view was planning a nefarious attack on the pres, definitely the best tactics to pull it off.

[der affe]

would you be comfortable walking beside me (hypothetically) if i were carrying my Glock 9mm concealed under my shirt? probably. If i strapped it to the outside of my shirt than would you be comfortable then?

In either case, i could be a "nutcase on a rampage, thirsty for blood", yet only the sight of the gun makes you uncomfortable. While this makes sense, it is still an interesting thought.

just my 02 cents.

no, it does not make you a blood thirsty nut job, but it does change perseptions.

we, as responsable gun owners need to recognize that in the democratic party's (or for the sake of arguement the current administration's) push to eliminate gun ownership, public perseption is paramount. given the years of the public education's democratic leanings and the current generation's predisposition toward blind obedience to the same system; it can and will be an uphill battle.

people's perception, like Lee's (not singling you out Lee, but it is a good example) are already pre-existing. by bringing your AR or AK-47 to a public rally where open carrying of guns are in the minority, you are most certainly going to call attention to yourself. even if you are able to make a positive statement in reguards to your position and nothing bad comes of it. the oposition will twist it around to make you a nut job who brought a gun to a peacefull rally.

stop and think about the greater good of your cause before you act on an individual level. if you do not, you may do more harm than good.

like was stated, i am sure Lee would feel differently if he was standing next to you, not knowing that you has a gun under your shirt. there would be no reason for him to know unless you needed to use it or you chose to let him know that you were carrying. again, perseption.

[nando]

We agree on the legality to own a gun. Now let's check how far we carry it. Would you, per exemple, walk into a kindergarden, and show you AK47 or Glock to all the toddlers and have them touch it?

no, because it's illegal to bring weapons into schools.

[hot karl marx]

We agree on the legality to own a gun. Now let's check how far we carry it. Would you, per exemple, walk into a kindergarden, and show you AK47 or Glock to all the toddlers and have them touch it?

You want to carry a gun? Great. Carry it to the shooting range or to the repair shop. But no need to bring it ito a public area not related to gun ownership (like a shooting range).

Yeah, I agree. Thats why its illegal to carry in schools, bars, fed buildings, etc.

Street corners and other places are a different animal.

[Massive Lee]

Wasn't the 2nd amendment writen in ages when there when basically the civil laws where in their infancy? When it was okay to have slaves? When women had no right? Ever wondered if that amendment was still in tune with the evolution of the society?

I don't necessarely believe on banning weapons. But the whole idea that they are legal and can be carried everywhere (after the 2nd ammendment) to protect the citizens against the government is just silly fairy tales...

[hot karl marx]

thats debatable. i think canadas healthcare system is a silly outlandish fairy tale too, but thats why I dont live in canada.

[Pinepig]

Wasn't the 2nd amendment writen in ages when there when basically the civil laws where in their infancy?

I dunno, since you are a subject of the crown when was the Magna Carta written, it was the beginning and a huge influence on the writing of the constitution.

I would guess that the basis for the second started way back then.

[87e30]

Wasn't the 2nd amendment writen in ages when there when basically the civil laws where in their infancy? When it was okay to have slaves? When women had no right? Ever wondered if that amendment was still in tune with the evolution of the society?

I don't necessarely believe on banning weapons. But the whole idea that they are legal and can be carried everywhere (after the 2nd ammendment) to protect the citizens against the government is just silly fairy tales...

There is such a thing as self defense.

Why should we only put guns into the hands of criminals?

[der affe]

We agree on the legality to own a gun. Now let's check how far we carry it. Would you, per exemple, walk into a kindergarden, and show you AK47 or Glock to all the toddlers and have them touch it?

You want to carry a gun? Great. Carry it to the shooting range or to the repair shop. But no need to bring it ito a public area not related to gun ownership (like a shooting range).

i was introduced to guns at a very young age. i also learned at that same age that guns are not a toy and that the kill. until i was 10 i could not touch a gun without my father with me ( at 10 i was given my first rifle a 10/22).

it was instilled in me to respect guns and the power they posess. i think that if you instilled that same level of respect alone with responsible gun ownership there would be a lot less accidential child VS child shootings. in the proper settings i think you should introduce small children to guns, but they should not be readily accessable to them at that age either. they do not posess the mental abilities to make judgments correctly (duh) and the parents should be responsable with their guns. unfortunately personable responsability is something that is very lacking in todays society.


in reguards to where i carry my gun. most people do not know that i carry unless they need to know, but i do carry most of the time, no matter where i am going, if it going to the gun shop, hunting, the range, shopping, what ever. it is my choice to be prepaired for a possable negative situation and be able to deal with it. once again you would never know that i had it on me. given my choice, i would rather vacate a bad situation and let the police handle it, but in the event that i can not, i am prepaired to defend myself and others if i ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. i am not out there looking to be dirty harry or deathwish. i am aslo not cruzing the mall with a rifle, descretion is the better part of valor.

[decay]

the only thing i don't understand is people who tend to characterize the government as over-reaching and totalitarian turning around and saying "what do we need guns for?"