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    After the past year, and what has happened in it I made the personal choice to become "athesistic." I do like some of the ideas some religions have, but I just don't see a "god" out there.

    Today I was talking to my ex and I was talking about how I do not believe in a god. She made a big huff about how if I would stop blaming god for all my problems that I would be a happier, and better person. I tried to explain that I did not believe in a god so there isn't much of a way I could blame him for anything, much less my issues. I tried telling her she was being ignorant, and that she should listen to what I have to say before making judgment. She comes back at me about how I told her to lean on god when her friend died. Well even at that point, over a year ago, I had been having issues with my faith. She says that when things starting going south for me I blamed god. I told her she was right, because at the time I did blame god, but after alot of thinking I made the choice to give up my faith in a god. I also told her that everyone blames god for something at one point. I also made a big deal about faiths like buddhism don't believe in a strict god. We got into a pretty big fight when she got pissy and said jesus, i replied with "he isn't real." And long story short she thinks becasue I at one time had issues with god, then gave up faith that I will never be "truely happy." Fact is that I had my issues then made the choice to give up faith, not based only on my hardship but just looking at life in general. Its not as if I got nothing but pain from god and thus gave him up, its more of a personal choice based upon my life, and what I see in the world. I am not some emo kid, I am a happy enough person IMO, I just don't think that there is a god there.

    I know a few people who are the jesus kids, my ex not being one of them by a long shot. For the most part the people who run around thanking jesus for everything kinda creep me out. They always seem to have a smile on their face and no matter what happens they seem cheery. To me this is just not human, it is human to feel sad, hurt, angry, and everything else. But everyone who talks to me about jesus or faith in general seems to be one of these people, I know that not everyone who believes in christ is like this, but most of the people my age around here who are into god seem to be this way. Most everyone around here has a faith of some kind or another, but the only ones who seem to show it are these "jesus freaks." I don't see how they are happier then me, in fact I think if the only emotion someone shows is happiness then they are a little crazy. I mean as a human there are times when everyone should be happy, sad, or angry.

    So my question is, do you guys think that believing in a god makes you a better person? I'm not looking for someone to try to show me the light or anything. I'm also not looking for those of you who believe in god to make a big fuss. I just want to know if you guys think that the simple believe in a god makes someone a "happier" person.

    Personal I will say no one this topic. I know plently of people who have a strong faith in god, and who I would say I am far happier then.

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    Religion is for people that can't think for themselves. You can only make yourself a better person.
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      #3
      god is like santa, if you believe he will give you coal if you aren't good, you'll be good. Why do I need hell looming over my head to be good?

      Atheists can be moral. Moral doesn't necessarily follow religion.

      I'm personally agnostic/confused. But I hate ppl that think that you are evil if you don't believe in god.

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        #4
        if going to church makes you a christian, does standing in a garage make you a car?
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          #5
          No. And based on the damage that Religion has done to the world I would say it makes you a much worse person by association.

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            #6
            Originally posted by ben312 View Post
            I mean as a human there are times when everyone should be happy, sad, or angry
            I feel these emotions everyday.

            Being a Born Again Christian does not make me better than anyone else. The Lord loves equally all those He created in His image.
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              #7
              Originally posted by nando View Post
              if going to church makes you a christian, does standing in a garage make you a car?
              Originally posted by s0urce View Post
              Religion is for people that can't think for themselves. You can only make yourself a better person.
              Also, there are so many people that are religious only on sunday...it's pretty funny/sad?
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                #8
                Originally posted by markseven View Post
                I feel these emotions everyday.

                Being a Born Again Christian does not make me better than anyone else. The Lord loves equally all those He created in His image.
                Again, I was not trying to include everyone who believes in god in that statement. I was just saying, around here it seems like everyone who shows faith is a jesus nut, and doesn't show anything but happiness. I have no problem with anyone who has faith, god just isn't for me at this point in my life. You would think someone who says they love me would understand, but she is doing nothing but being a bitch about it.

                What she said just really pissed me off and I wanted to see how others felt on the topic.
                Originally posted by Beej '86 325es
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                Originally posted by Jparkr
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by markseven View Post
                  The Lord loves equally all those He created in His image.
                  So there is no hell.

                  I hate ppl that tell me I'm going to (enter name of their hell here) if I don't believe in their religion. God is terrible if he requires you to believe in X religion without proof.

                  *the bible is not proof. It was written by man and therefore can not be proven to be directly from god. Could have just been some guys on acid trips.

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                    #10
                    Religion can make you more aware of how you act towards people. but it dosent make you a better person. In some cases religious people are the worst people on the planet

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by shiboujin View Post
                      So there is no hell.

                      I hate ppl that tell me I'm going to (enter name of their hell here) if I don't believe in their religion. God is terrible if he requires you to believe in X religion without proof.

                      *the bible is not proof. It was written by man and therefore can not be proven to be directly from god. Could have just been some guys on acid trips.
                      They didn't have acid untill the mid 1900's ;) but i agree with your point. I feel that if there is a god out there, then he would love me no matter what I say about him, or how I feel about him. If god loves us all the same then I can feel how I like and in the end he would still love me.

                      It just blew my mind a bit when she said I was a sad case and that I would never be "truely happy." I know people who are all about god, and who IMO I am much happier then. She also said I was blaming god, which made me laugh. If I don't believe he is there, how do I blame him?
                      Originally posted by Beej '86 325es
                      every time an M-tech 1 spoiler is destroyed, a baby seal dies.
                      Originally posted by Jparkr
                      The last thing we need are more of the retards on here thinking they are engineers too.
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                        #12
                        This will be good. I believe in God, however do not go to church and curse a lot. Believing in God does not make you happier. Some people who do are happier but generally like the OP said, everyone is happy, sad, or angry because they are human.
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                          #13
                          Just another fine example of women wasting our time by talking. Who cares what she thinks?!?!?

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                            #14
                            DO NOT let someone else persuade you! Do what you feel you should do in your life. Believe in yourself and your actions and what they result in. What you know for sure is that right now you are living, so don't spend your entire life preparing for something that may or may not happen. In the end it really doesn't matter what the outcome is as long as you live your life without regrets. Doing what you feel you need to do is the only way to live a worthwhile life. I think hat organized religion is fear based and hypocritical, but that is the opinion of myself.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by s0urce View Post
                              Religion is for people that can't think for themselves. You can only make yourself a better person.
                              The amount of truth in this statement is unreal. People don't want to think for themselves, they want to be told that everything will be alright. They want to watch football and go to church on Sunday. It is because people don't want to think for themselves that this world is in the position it's in.
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