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    #46
    2nd photo looks great. It's about time BMW got into a 4cyl turbo, it's a great option for most drivers who want a balance of performance and fuel economy. Most car companies these days are going this route.. look at the chevy cruze with it's 1.6t and a 6speed, hyundai's 2.0T, not to mention audi and vw continuing their development of petrol and diesel turbos.

    Considering BMW's hybrid concepts, the i8 and the i3, both use small turbo engines (pretty sure 3cyl?), not surprised to see this technology carried forward into their new production cars.

    don't get me wrong, I love a straight 6, but not everyone needs one.

    Originally posted by blefevre View Post
    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-...photo-4527162/

    New real photos. The front of the red one is very nice. At least they got their aggressive look back. The previous generation was awful. 4 cylinder turbo is awesome. I can't wait for the wagon version. 88 pounds lighter then the old version too.

    Here is the Mtech one
    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-...photo-4527289/

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      #47
      Originally posted by trackjunkie21 View Post
      The turbo 4 makes more power than the 3.0... and 258lb ft of torque at 1,250rpm, that sounds amazing.


      The opposite....the 3.0 makes more power.
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        #48
        Originally posted by joshh View Post
        The opposite....the 3.0 makes more power.
        Yet the 3.0 is slower.

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          #49
          Originally posted by tjts1 View Post
          Yet the 3.0 is slower.
          New engine specs:
          2.0-liter Four: 245 hp, peak torque of 258 lb-ft from 1,250 rpm, 0-62 mph in
          5.9 seconds (328i).
          3.0-liter Six: 306 hp, peak torque of 295 lb-ft at 1,200 rpm. 0-62 mph in
          5.5 seconds (335i).


          Not according to that link.
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            #50
            Why make a direct injection 3.0 6 n/a when you can have a direct injected 2.0 4 turbo that's better?
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              #51
              ghey. F stand for waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles.
              They call me the frog



              - E30 Alpina C2 2.7
              - E30 Alpina C2 2.5
              - E28 M 528I 3.5 (300HP)
              - E36 M3 S50 3.2 (Euro)

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                #52
                Originally posted by joshh View Post
                New engine specs:
                2.0-liter Four: 245 hp, peak torque of 258 lb-ft from 1,250 rpm, 0-62 mph in
                5.9 seconds (328i).
                3.0-liter Six: 306 hp, peak torque of 295 lb-ft at 1,200 rpm. 0-62 mph in
                5.5 seconds (335i).


                Not according to that link.
                What I find kind of sad, is that in 2012, BMW is managing to pull 245 hp from a 2.0 turbocharged 4; when my 2002 WRX pulls 227hp from a 2.0 turbo 4 :/

                I dont know what the MPG specs are on these F30s, but I can easily get 29mpg with a pair of clogged up cats in my downpipe..
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                  #53
                  when my evo 9 pulls 350 horse from a 2.0 turbo its sad.
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                    #54
                    I like it.

                    Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                    i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
                    Originally posted by slammin.e28
                    Moral of this story?

                    If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by InuFaye View Post
                      when my evo 9 pulls 350 horse from a 2.0 turbo its sad.
                      Well thats with a list of mods + tune. I'm sure the future potential for these turbo BMWs is pretty high (or at least I'd hope so), but stock for stock those numbers are weak.

                      I wonder if they intentionally left it weaker so it wouldn't surpass the I6 that BMW has been using for so long..
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                        #56
                        ^ yes, but how much tq do your motors make at 1200 rpm? That's pretty nuts if you ask me... I'm not sure what you're expecting?
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by e30e View Post
                          Why make a direct injection 3.0 6 n/a when you can have a direct injected 2.0 4 turbo that's better?
                          And quicker, more fuel efficient, less weight...
                          258 torques at 1250rpm is friggin impressive. Looking forward to the first E30 swap if anybody ever figures out stand alone engine management for DI.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by 87e30 View Post
                            ^ yes, but how much tq do your motors make at 1200 rpm? That's pretty nuts if you ask me... I'm not sure what you're expecting?

                            I'm not bashing it really, just wondering if BMW de-tuned it (HP ratings) to make the bigger motor sound more appealing (giving it more power & better 0-60 times)?
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                              #59
                              Originally posted by shiftbmw View Post
                              I like it. I think it's an improvement.
                              Basically, they did so poorly during Bangle/Honkeytonk era that they are phasing in mediocre designs that look good compared to the horrible ones they had before.

                              At least it looks like they are getting rid of the "sagging horse back" lines that ran down the profile. Outside of the stupid lights/grill section I think its an improvement on the older model. Too big though, at least too big for a coupe.
                              Im now E30less.
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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Ryan... View Post
                                I'm not bashing it really, just wondering if BMW de-tuned it (HP ratings) to make the bigger motor sound more appealing (giving it more power & better 0-60 times)?



                                I believe you're correct there. Specially with the motors that have been made of late. It's more about selling the brand still. They could all make I4 motors producing 500+ HP but they have reliability and future cars to produce. they have to outmatch what they previously made.
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