OFFICIAL Land Rover thread.

[MrBurgundy]

Timing chain issues on the BMW engines seem to be the biggest item.

Not exactly the same, but I bought my 07 RR Sport S/C with 101k. I have 104k on the clock and have replaced all the fluids (over $900 for parts/labor), front wheel bearing, fixed the plugged drain tubes + readjusted the leaking sunroof 2x + replaced the front windshield cowl because it was allowing literally a gallon of water into the passenger foot well during every big rainstorm, front sway bar bushings, I have a loose lower control arm bushing now, replaced the alternator, and now I've got an electronic parking brake failure and electrical brake related issue that looks like it would be in the neighborhood of $1200-1800. I'm not fixing the parking brake, decided to pull the fuse instead so it shuts the fuck up.

All in all I'm well over $3k into maintenance, damn near $1/mile, and that's not including the 16.2 mpg.


Overall, still worth it :)

the newer l322s with the 5.0s have shit timing components too.

Over time the steel tensioners will dig a hole into the guide rail.

Literally chainging one right now haha.

Also, these 5.0s are much easier to work on than the BMW v8s, but the downside is getting those fucking injectors out. If you dont have the tool, you're gonna have a bad time.

[Ryan...]

the newer l322s with the 5.0s have shit timing components too.

Over time the steel tensioners will dig a hole into the guide rail.

Literally chainging one right now haha.

Also, these 5.0s are much easier to work on than the BMW v8s, but the downside is getting those fucking injectors out. If you dont have the tool, you're gonna have a bad time.

I read a lot of horror stories about the 5.0 engines, which is why I didn't even consider going that route. Not that mine has been cheap by any means, but I couldn't stomach the $5k repair bills those L322 guys seem to think are "acceptable" prices

[Rob]

Removed a gigantic resonator from the RR today, giving me what's commonly referred to as the "Poor man's Borla" on the RR forums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0cI3X-sK4o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VJi811c3JU

:devil:

[James Crivellone]

I read a lot of horror stories about the 5.0 engines, which is why I didn't even consider going that route. Not that mine has been cheap by any means, but I couldn't stomach the $5k repair bills those L322 guys seem to think are "acceptable" prices

The raw parts for the 5L are not too bad, my 2011 I had to do timing chain guides, waterpump, the plastic pipes in the valley, etc.


At a dealer that is like 6k worth of work, in your garage over a weekend its not bad, 2k worth of parts (including the timing tools) and a few cases of beer.



That being said i had a shop do mine, as I didn't have time.

[Ryan...]

The raw parts for the 5L are not too bad, my 2011 I had to do timing chain guides, waterpump, the plastic pipes in the valley, etc.


At a dealer that is like 6k worth of work, in your garage over a weekend its not bad, 2k worth of parts (including the timing tools) and a few cases of beer.



That being said i had a shop do mine, as I didn't have time.

I knew that if anything came up I'd be paying a shop for that work, no way I was going to dig into that lol

I would like to drive one of the 5.0s, my little 4.2 with the blower feels decently quick for how heavy it is, so I imagine the 5.0 feels pretty nice.

[MrBurgundy]

I think the 5.0 is a great engine

I'm biased though cuz I hate m6Xs lol

[haaken675]

Does anyone know if a BMW ecu would work on an l322? I have come across a few decent deals lately, but they typically had issues with the ignition locking due to land rover's crazy ignition lock system. Being that the older l322's had BMW motors and BMW electronics, can I find a way to bypass this like we would do with an EWS delete?

[Ryan...]

I recall seeing a large "Interchangeable Parts" thread on RangeRovers.net before being banned, so perhaps check there..

[haaken675]

I'll have to see what I can find that way then. I have been searching and searching and can't seem to find anyone that has overridden the system. I have such a hard time believing no one has a solution to this problem as it seems to be so pervasive in the older rovers, especially from what I understand is that they even use the same BMW EWS system.

[slammin.e28]

Try this?

https://www.kasselperformance.com/pr...tu-ews-delete/

[James Crivellone]

Does anyone know if a BMW ecu would work on an l322? I have come across a few decent deals lately, but they typically had issues with the ignition locking due to land rover's crazy ignition lock system. Being that the older l322's had BMW motors and BMW electronics, can I find a way to bypass this like we would do with an EWS delete?

We've used the E39/E38 General Modules in them, so possibly. The programming is probably different however. You also need to figure out EWS as its paired between the Key/DME/EWS Module

[James Crivellone]

I think the 5.0 is a great engine

I'm biased though cuz I hate m6Xs lol

The 5L Has the same issues the M62's have, frankly they are damn near identical in terms of issues.

[haaken675]

We've used the E39/E38 General Modules in them, so possibly. The programming is probably different however. You also need to figure out EWS as its paired between the Key/DME/EWS Module

My thought is, if we can modify a BMW ecu to remove EWS, then can it be done on a Range Rover? I just havn't been able to figure this out and I don't really have the time o buy a range rover and find out, lol...My wife might kill me for taking on another project like that.

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[Ryan...]

Got to tow my future BiL's GMC Yukon out of a muddy backyard two nights ago. After all the shit he gave me for purchasing my "Mommy Minivan" it not only drove right up the muddy sideways hill without so much as a moment of wheel spin, it pulled his shiny new SUV with brand new tires on it up that same hill :rofl: