Nonsense Thread

[MrBurgundy]

I dunno man, I can't get over the electronic integration (manual swapping an E39 is more of a pain than it should be) and the ABS on the exhaust side with E39s. I only considered an E39 for my daily until I saw that they put the ABS system where I needed to put my turbo and its exhaust. To me it seems it was all downhill after the E34. Even the E34 has some stupidity compared to earlier cars, like the extremely unreliable HVAC setup, the garbage window regulator clips and chipboard door panels, the broken-100%-of-the-time headlight adjusters.

13 years in my shop and I seldom see ABS issues on e39s.

If you want a manual e39, just buy one. They're everywhere and e39s are just not expensive enough to justify purchasing an auto and swapping it to manual.

Sure an e39 is not a perfect candidate for a turbo setup. IMO a turbo on that car doesn't even make sense. It's a nice, quiet sport sedan. A turbo would make that car something it was never supposed to be. A smooth v8 is plenty in that car.

Close to stock is the best place to be in a DD

Lower it a bit, get some nice fitting wheels and call it a day

[varg]

I dunno man, I can't get over the electronic integration (manual swapping an E39 is more of a pain than it should be) and the ABS on the exhaust side with E39s. I only considered an E39 for my daily until I saw that they put the ABS system where I needed to put my turbo and its exhaust. To me it seems it was all downhill after the E34. Even the E34 has some stupidity compared to earlier cars, like the extremely unreliable HVAC setup, the garbage window regulator clips and chipboard door panels, the broken-100%-of-the-time headlight adjusters.

[MrBurgundy]

Yeah, cars def peaked early 2000s.

e46/e39 was the pinnacle of BMW.

I absolutely love my e39.

[roguetoaster]

Think that's a key point. Just give me a car, I don't need a crazy tech package.

These aren't supercars, you don't need traction control, stability control. And don't get me started on lane keep assist etc.

While I agree on lane keep and would add crash avoidance as unnecessary stuff, I can call out the E39s ASC as a shining example of getting it right. Blind spot warning is also nice on modern blind spot mobiles, but like all tech it seems to be a case of now that it's here we can abandon basic principles like actually looking in a mirror, or heaven forbid, adjusting it to see outside rather than inside.

But since it's here it all needs to be built with the assumption that the driver can do the thing they are doing, not catering to careless morons.

OTOH, every piece of crap that's installed on a car makes it more expensive to repair when crashed, which indirectly costs us all in insurance, so screw it, no cupholders, radio deletes for all, and wheels that only just clear the calipers.

[Panici]

Nothing to "turn off"

Think that's a key point. Just give me a car, I don't need a crazy tech package.

These aren't supercars, you don't need traction control, stability control. And don't get me started on lane keep assist etc.