Are There Any Emo guys On R3V?

[Ben Carufel]

Just for R3v:

[tonytony]

[dwforum]

I think some of you overly use the term emo. Tvan's post had a number of bands I wouldn't consider emo. And maybe I am partial to flogging molly, but I don't get how e30sd can throw them in as emo.

[dwforum]

I say hooray for Flogging Molly.

I say hooray for permit.

[tonytony]

Garth brooks is emo, have you guys seen the tight pants he wears along with his country singer buddies?

[StereoInstaller1]

Seriously, the highlight of this thread was when someone said Led Zeppelin rocks. Nothing else in the last 5 pages matters.

You are very fucking welcome.

[DEV0 E30]

Not so much. I just wrote an essay on stereotypes, the attitudes in this thread I included.

Thanks dudes.

[Digitalwave]

The pussification of the american male is a huge problem. This like here is a funny, and yet serious rant on that exact topic:

http://www.theothersideofkim.com/index.php/essays/41/

I don't really get into the politics or gun thing on that site, but take this article on its face and it makes some valid points. Men need to be not afraid to be men.

When this is all said and done, i could really care less about all of this. Its an interesting discussion though, and since i don't associate with anyone who is "emo" i never really understood why people go out of their way to do it. To me it seems like it takes a lot of effort (go buy all the different clothes, get trendy tatoos, dye your hair, ect. ect). The only thing that really gets me about it is this - its not me with the problem, its the emo kid. Because i wear a polo shirt and jeans and flip flops and drive my bmw (e30), i don't understand their pain? I'm not "hard"? that doesn't make shit for sense. I listen to music ON VINYL. i bet 99% of these punks don't even own a record player, much less records - so its not about truly appreciating the music, its about something totally unrelated. These dudes point the finger at someone who is normally dressed (and this has to be a huge thing to them, since they go out of their way to make their appearence reflect their "pain") and making something out of their lives, then insert some label about them or their lifestyle, and then go back to listening to their limp dick sad bastard music and pissing on each other while whining about how bad their lives are. that, to me, is something that i do not want to be associated with.

This one is probably the worse. How can you say shit like "pissing on each other while whining about how bad their lives are" when you've never even met an "emo" kid?

[Erick]

this thread is like divide an conquer i swear, and the same goes with the topic of drifting. No one will ever convince the other side of their point of view. From my stand point i think the "emo" everyone hates are the posers, ones who think they have to cry all the time and look like girls because that's the way they have to be to be emo. no one mentioned Rocky Vatolato, or even Bright Eyes(Conner Oburst) he/them is emo but he doesn't sing about not getting waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles. I hate it out everyone labels everything, some music just can't be labeled. DRIFTING IS THE SHIZNITS!!!

Please do not compare emo to drifting.

[CleanAzzE30z]

Nirvana isn't emo and no they aren't as good as Zeppelin but in terms of musical influence they had just as much if not more. Every alternative rock band today (not emo), was influenced by Nirvana.

And every band since Zep in most genres (including and especially Alt. rock including Nirvana) has their influence. But I know its the voice of a disenfranchised generation and all that shit, which did give them a certain influence until.....yet again....money diluted/merchandised and packaged rock into a neat palatable geanre of music that the people in the 70's would puke to see where the "rebellious" music that meant a turd went. Shit it even happened to rap, when I was in H.S. you would have never even THOUGHT of putting a rapper (Eazy-E, Ice Cube before he went terribly soft) on ANY prime time shows OR a Super Bowl halftime show. It just wasnt in the cards. but now softies like Nelly and my all-time most hated rapper Ja Rule make lovey, dancey shit rap and its been packaed so that EVERYONE makes money. Fuck it, thats just the way it is. Somethings underground, when it has a message and a meaning, then it turns to marketing and then its gone too far when everyones saying the expressions and Soccer moms even play it in their cars or "Kids Bop 398" has it in their "compilation". Its pretty cyclical. All "rebel music" turns into shite, then another one comes out until its polluted by big corporations and dollars. The artists are partly to blame as well. I jst dont see Pink Floyd being in a "Charmin" commercial in 1973. Sucks to see Jimmy let that happen to Zep in the Cadillac cmmercials. But then again, these people are businessmen and couldnt give less of a flying colored shit what I think. Its all bullshit anyways and has no real meaning in my life. No use getting bitter about it. Just gotta make sure I do the best for MYSELF in MY everyday situations. Cuz whether I go out and do 2 8-balls a day like I used to, or I go to work, go to the gym, eat right, and have a good life, it couldnt mean fuck all to Jimmy Page, who by the way is god to me.

Mariano

[Digitalwave]

Music is a progression and an evolution and I think music these days is influenced by Nirvana, but Nirvana was influenced by Zepplin, and so on and so forth. Your parents hated the music of your generation, we will hate the music of our kids generation, and so on and so forth.

[Brew]

How about a list of 'emo' bands (and why they suck)
Incubus (pick up girls from Hot Topic by mentioning this band.)
The Mars Volta (overrated, just plain and simply put.)

I consider Incubus to be progressive rock. Just because a ton of 13 year old girls think Brandon Boyd is hot, doesn't make them emo.
And by putting The Mars Volta on your list, you've completely discredited yourself. There is NOTHING emo about that band. They are super-progressive, and they definitely don't sing about girls and cutting themselves.

[Digitalwave]

Are rappers emo cause they sing about girls?

[Jarvis]

While a lot of you certainly have the wrong idea of what is/isn't emo, I'll admit that lately any new-ish band I hear on the radio that I don't like I call "emo." If they sound too whiny or poppy but they're on a rock station, it's "emo" to me.

But come on, seriously... incubus? Go listen to Enjoy/Fungus Amongus and SCIENCE. Whoever said incubus is emo has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. And The Mars Volta is easily one of the most talented and original bands to surface in the last 10 years. Yeah, their music is probably 'weird' to a lot of people but that hardly makes them emo.

Dumbasses.

[Digitalwave]

Almost as bad as anybody thinking that someone with black hair and tight jeans cries and cuts themselves every day. Does that mean every prep with a pink polo gets waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles every day? Doubtful.