Is it just me or all the younger women just..

[Mlarsen]

Just keep swimmin'

But seriously, we're all a little crazy in our twenties.

[herbivor]

Maybe try being gay since girls turn you off. I'm sure there are plenty of gay men out there that will be whatever you want them to be. You just have to take it up the ass once and awhile but hey, at least you don't have to worry about pregnancy or periods or bad blow jobs.

[shameson]

you're gonna have a bad time.

[CabbE30]

when I think of my group of friends, I can say that an overwhelming majority of them are female.

this is a double edged sword, in that through communicating with females I get a sense of what they need/want and i also enjoy going out with them as it makes me look/feel 'normal' and dateable, but without the pretense of dating or complications of sex. on the flip side, i constantly run the risk of being friend zoned when I begin to take a serious interest in a friend, and also if I am dating someone, having predominately female friends leads to suspicion and concern on my partners side.

honestly though all great relationships lack the predicated urge to date.. ie, letting things evolve naturally from strangers to friends to lovers is the best way to go. it takes patience, self denial, self control, but like all good things, more time yields the best outcome.

if anything, I lament that I don't have guy friends to hang out with for balance, or when I get tired of the ladies (which doesn't really happen, but when it does, man I am over it!)

[matthugie]

Wow, this is a rather depressing thread, though there is some good advice here and there. Here is most of what I have taken from my ~15 years in the dating world, which includes failure, success, everything from manwhoring to celibacy, one night stands to multi-year relationships.

1. First, you must know and be comfortable with yourself. If you aren't happy with who you are and where you are in life, then don't bother looking. You can tell if someone is a happy person or not, and if not you generally don't want to be around them. If you aren't happy with where you are, then your energy should be in rectifying that situation first.
2. Along the same lines of 1. know that confidence breeds success. If you're comfortable with yourself there's no reason not to be confident. Bishes love confidence. This doesn't mean being a dick, just apply #3.
3. Be yourself. Don't try to be what you think someone else wants, to assume you know what they want will burn you (this goes for job interviews as well). Forcing a fit never works long run, and you won't be happy. At some point you will need to be yourself, and when that happens they will feel lied to and then no one will be happy.
4. Don't be idealistic. Know what traits are important to you and what your deal breakers are, but don't pigeon hole yourself into only looking for one type of person. Often what you think you want isn't what you need or are compatible with. If you're only looking for a 5'9" 36-24-36 blonde hair blue eyed chick who wrenches on e30's, you're gonna have a bad time.
5. Be nice. No, being nice doesn't mean being effeminate or being a pansy. Yes, I know the cliche "nice guys finish last." It's bullshit (long-term anyway). Yes, there are some women who like being treated like shite, but the overwhelming majority do like a nice guy. This means being respectful and having some compassion for your fellow man. You'll be amazed how far a small random act of kindness will go with women.
6. Don't try too hard. This applies to a lot of things, but know that desperation doesn't look good on anyone. This doesn't mean not to put in effort, effort is appreciated, but be reasonable. Some women may like to be choked, but they don't like to be suffocated. Texting them every 6 seconds isn't going to work out for you.
7. Patience. Probably should be #1, and has been mentioned before. Also relevant to #1, #3, and #6. Yes, everyone around you may be married, having kids, etc. Whatever. You live your life, let them live theirs. Don't worry about what others have (especially in terms of relationships), that shouldn't matter to you. Also, if you're in your early to mid 20's, you have nothing at all to complain about. Women your age too immature? Go cougar hunting or something. Goes back to #4, know what you want.

I may add to or amend this later, but this should at least get some gears turning.

[evandael]

when I think of my group of friends, I can say that an overwhelming majority of them are female.

this is a double edged sword, in that through communicating with females I get a sense of what they need/want and i also enjoy going out with them as it makes me look/feel 'normal' and dateable, but without the pretense of dating or complications of sex. on the flip side, i constantly run the risk of being friend zoned when I begin to take a serious interest in a friend, and also if I am dating someone, having predominately female friends leads to suspicion and concern on my partners side.

honestly though all great relationships lack the predicated urge to date.. ie, letting things evolve naturally from strangers to friends to lovers is the best way to go. it takes patience, self denial, self control, but like all good things, more time yields the best outcome.

if anything, I lament that I don't have guy friends to hang out with for balance, or when I get tired of the ladies (which doesn't really happen, but when it does, man I am over it!)

[redsubdivisions]

I keep getting told I'm an arrogant, self-centered piece of shit. Never kept me from being in a relationship or getting some so I never worried about it.

haha. Story of my life after I realized being nice didn't get me jack shit when it came to females.

[Kozworth]

Word to that. It used to bother me really bad, but I just don't care anymore. Learning not to give a shit really makes it easier. I know so many people that are so hung up on dating, finding a gf, chasing that next piece of ass, etc, it just seems like a giant waste of time to me. I'd rather be working on my E30.

For some reason I am undateable. Not to brag but a Loy of people say I am one of the nicest guys and that I could get any girl. But it turns out false. Whenever I try I usually get screwed over one way or another. I mostly have just got in this automotive bubble to e happy with y career choice and drive a car I love everyday. While I am usually good most days, sometimes I regret not having more female communications.

[Q5Quint]

^^^ I am slowly morphing from Holland into you.

I keep meeting nice chicks, they try to settle me down, and I am not really all that interested. I enjoy my freedom from a slumpy hateful wife- I know many that had good experiences with marriage and many that have or are having horrible ones.

I will keep taking my chances with the angry 30s crowd, as they seem to have the most fun.

[Ryan Stewart]

I'm pretty much you just 12 years younger.

I'm that guy who always gets told "you deserve someone better than me" or "you are so amazing you deserve someone really nice"

None have stepped up to the plate though.

We should swap chicks. I keep getting told I'm an arrogant, self-centered piece of shit. Never kept me from being in a relationship or getting some so I never worried about it.

[Dozyproductions]

Maybe we're being bred this way /conspiracy

[Cabriolet]

Going everywhere and doing everything by myself is kind of a drag. Eating out really sucks when you ask for a table for one...

This had to be the worst part of being single for me.

Like I said before, all you people who are complaining about this and that consider yourselves lucky. You could be stuck in my shoes.

luck of the draw I see

[e30austin]

I'm pretty much you just 12 years younger.

I'm that guy who always gets told "you deserve someone better than me" or "you are so amazing you deserve someone really nice"

None have stepped up to the plate though.

X10000. I sense a support group meeting taking place soon. lol

My last gf screwed me over and I found out some shit about her being with some other d-bag while we were still together. She moved away and then got charged with domestic violence so I'll say I got lucky I guess.

After that I decided to take a break and not worry about getting girls. I've met some nice ones at school in my classes but I don't worry too much about it going anywhere. I just enjoy my cars and working on them, hanging out with buds and focusing on work.

My cars will always be here. I'm only 19 so a gf probably won't

waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles that. My last ex tried to run my life, never did shit and i didn't really care, but once she stopped putting out, that was it for me. Left a pretty sour taste in my life, I could care less if I ever went out on a date and/or ever had a relationship with another girl again. Apparently, I'm weird for feeling like that (at least that's what I hear from lots of people on a regular basis.) it's whatever, though.

Between trying to run a business, going to school and spending time with my family, I really don't have much time for anything else and I'm totally fine with that.

[CabbE30]

Something very important I forgot: Listen to her, doesn't mean you have to agree with what she's saying, you can even 'play' argue (don't force or insist that either person is right tho). If you can crack a joke that is related to something even she forgot she said she said 3 dates ago, she'll want the D.

[Redfox]

Not all women are bad. Like Ashley said, quit searching for 10s and expecting them to fulfill every quota you have.