Hawthorne Police Officer shooting dog. (NSFW)

[Nick_S]

Refer to sig. And no, as others said, this shit happens all the time. I got a gun pulled on me for going the speed limit. (I filed a complaint and that was as far as that went) That's an act of terrorism. Shooting a dog with people all around is a danger to everyone's life in the area. That's why responsible shooters shoot at a range or some where far away from people.

Terrorism? That's pretty far fetched. I think given the circumstance with an aggressive dog these officers did what they felt necessary however horrible it was to watch. Are you also implying that any time an officers discharges his weapon it should be at a range? And not to protect himself?

[Fusion]

All bystanders knew what would probably happen, even mentioning "what if the dogs jumps out" and laughing. Stupid people put the dog in a stressfull situation, that icludes the cops. Even they could've told him to lock the dog in the car. The cops were then defending themselves against an obvious attack.
The poor dog died because of human stupidity. But I would lean towards blaming the owner, because (as an Amstaf owner myself) only he knew what could happen and how the dog would react. The cops have no way of knowing his possible behavior.
Also, a good owner can call off an attack. Seems he didn't have control over the dog without the leash.

[z6ne]

That was so dumb, the guy should have gotten in his car and left. As an owner of Rotties for the past 15 years they are BRUTALLY protective. The owner of the dog should have known that and thought to roll his windows up.
I understand that the dog attacked, that is the job of a rottie. They PROTECT their owners and family till death. I ALSO would have shot if a dog attacked me, I FULLY blame the owner.

Look at him, he walks up and turns around knowing he was going to get cuffed. STUPID FUCKING OWNER. It is not the policeman's fault the dog attacked, the owner did NOT restrain his dog. The owner could get filed for charges for the dog attacking them.

Anyone that is asking for the Policemans badges and shit is FUCKING MORONS. Do you put your life on the line everyday for others? I know there is some stupid Policeman out there. But you do not know why they were there and that guy should not have been filming like that. He asked for it, and HE alone got his dog killed. He is a dumb retarded owner.

Not all cops put their lives on the line daily for others. Generalizing that every police officer in this country is a straight and narrow stand up guy is ignorant, some cops, like the one in this video, have boring patrol/traffic jobs, and wait for the chance to shoot something.

[Thizzelle]

Why did the cops all of a sudden come at guy after many minutes? was he being a dick head yelling shit? I couldn't hear. But another reason why I always stay away from shit and these guys watching are the same ones who cause traffic for someone changing a flat tire.

[F34R]

Not all cops put their lives on the line daily for others. Generalizing that every police officer in this country is a straight and narrow stand up guy is ignorant, some cops, like the one in this video, have boring patrol/traffic jobs, and wait for the chance to shoot something.

Did you miss the part where I mentioned that there is stupid Police out there? Try reading all of that before calling me "ignorant".

How do you know the ones in this video are biting at the bit to shoot something? That is ignorant to think that way. You have no idea what they do, and background that led to them being in law enforcement. My Grandfather(RIP) was one of the first NYS K9 unit officer in NYS. He had to deal with this crap all the time. His dog would MANGLE the shit out of anyone with just a simple command from his mouth alone.

A dog is a weapon in the right hands. Or a mess waiting to happen from a dumb owner.

I have been pulled over a few times from dumb shit(going speed limit, tint, being low). And never insulted or jerk to the Police. Moron or not, respect is something you should show. And by grouping everyone up because of a few videos on the internet is "ignorant".

[Redfox]

Nicely said, F34r.

[IRON-E]

You guys need to commute around L.A., cops are scared of just about anything. Fire at anything, the first chance they get.

I'm going to side with "it's the dog owners fault" on the OPs video though, the cops do have a job to do, deal with it.

[frankenbeemer]

So why would he even bring the dog into that situation? Then he failed by not securing the animal

I agree he should not have brought the dog into that situation. I do think the police should have made sure the dog was secured before arresting the suspect. Maybe he was showboating for the neighborhood, but I don't believe he was interfering with the police. It's still a nation wide problem that often police will bully anyone who questions their authority. This seems to be the case here, as it appears the officers handled a completely submissive suspect roughly (watch them cuff him), I wonder if the tone of their voice towards the suspect riled the dog. Of course it's possible the owner said something that caused the dogs reaction, I don't know.

Ok, just to make something clear... Being hand cuffed does not equal an arrest.

That depends, it may or may not according to the court:
The Use of Handcuffs

The use of handcuffs. (New York v. Quarles, supra; United States v. Purry (D.C. Cir. 1976) 545 F.2nd 217, 220.)
While putting a juvenile in a security office at the border, and frisking her, were not enough to constitute an arrest, handcuffing her shortly thereafter when contraband was found in her car was an arrest. (United States v. Juvenile (RRA-A) (9th Cir. 2000) 229 F.3rd 737, 743.)

That was so dumb, the guy should have gotten in his car and left. The owner of the dog should have known that and thought to roll his windows up.
I understand that the dog attacked, that is the job of a rottie. They PROTECT their owners and family till death. I ALSO would have shot if a dog attacked me, I FULLY blame the owner.

Look at him, he walks up and turns around knowing he was going to get cuffed. STUPID FUCKING OWNER. It is not the policeman's fault the dog attacked, the owner did NOT restrain his dog. The owner could get filed for charges for the dog attacking them.

Anyone that is asking for the Policemans badges and shit is FUCKING MORONS. Do you put your life on the line everyday for others? I know there is some stupid Policeman out there. But you do not know why they were there and that guy should not have been filming like that. He asked for it, and HE alone got his dog killed. He is a dumb retarded owner.

I disagree. I encourage everyone to film anything that looks suspicious or is related to criminal activity, especially the police! There have been too many instances of misuse of authority (including outright perjury, planting drugs, losing exculpatory evidence) to do otherwise. http://www.policemisconduct.net/

Seems he didn't have control over the dog without the leash.

Sadly true.

[reelizmpro]

Hawthorne has it's good and bad parts but it's bad parts are extremely hood where the zoning allows multiple apartment complexes all on one city block. Anyway, there were a bunch of people filming, but this guy seemed to be antagonizing the police with his loud music bumping from his parked car and him walking around with a large dog. It was like he wanted them to see him and when they approached, he knew the routine and was compliant but unfortunately, he left his windows down and his dog jumped out to protect him. I don't think Hawthorne PD had to shoot the dog (I thought they could have backed off inside the car or tazzed him) but I do think the owner was irresponsible for not securing the dog in the car with the windows up. Cops out here have big chips on their shoulders. They would not hesitate to shoot an aggressive suspect and could care less about a dog (unless it's a police dog of course). And that's exactly why you don't put your dog in this situation.

[z6ne]

Did you miss the part where I mentioned that there is stupid Police out there? Try reading all of that before calling me "ignorant".

How do you know the ones in this video are biting at the bit to shoot something? That is ignorant to think that way. You have no idea what they do, and background that led to them being in law enforcement. My Grandfather(RIP) was one of the first NYS K9 unit officer in NYS. He had to deal with this crap all the time. His dog would MANGLE the shit out of anyone with just a simple command from his mouth alone.

A dog is a weapon in the right hands. Or a mess waiting to happen from a dumb owner.

I have been pulled over a few times from dumb shit(going speed limit, tint, being low). And never insulted or jerk to the Police. Moron or not, respect is something you should show. And by grouping everyone up because of a few videos on the internet is "ignorant".

I actually did miss that sentence. My blunder.

[IRON-E]

Hawthorne has it's good and bad parts but it's bad parts are extremely hood where the zoning allows multiple apartment complexes all on one city block. Anyway, there were a bunch of people filming, but this guy seemed to be antagonizing the police with his loud music bumping from his parked car and him walking around with a large dog. It was like he wanted them to see him and when they approached, he knew the routine and was compliant but unfortunately, he left his windows down and his dog jumped out to protect him. I don't think Hawthorne PD had to shoot the dog (I thought they could have backed off inside the car or tazzed him) but I do think the owner was irresponsible for not securing the dog in the car with the windows up. Cops out here have big chips on their shoulders. They would not hesitate to shoot an aggressive suspect and could care less about a dog. And that's exactly why you don't put your dog in this situation.

Well stated Barry

[E30_Pare]

Well the lady that blasted that dog had some John Wayne reflexes.

[GaryE30]

Situations like this scare me about my dog. I have a black lab and he's about 70 lbs and he loves to jump up on people. When he meets new people at my house he goes nuts barking (playful) and about 2000% normal energy level. The entire time his tail is wagging too so you know he's the happiest pup in the world

however,

I can't tell you how many times people have nearly shit their pants when he comes running to the door barking. Understandably they're scared because they don't know the dog at all, but he wouldn't hurt a fly. He may jump on you and tackle you, leaving you covered in a shit ton of fresh saliva, but he'd never bite or attack.

It scares me because if he ever got lose and saw someone new and wanted to play, they may mistake it for an aggressive attack and shoot him or something.

Before you say I need to work him through some basic obedience, yes, you're right, I know I do and I will very soon :)

[mrsleeve]

This is a product of the us Vs them mentality that has over run our law enforcement.

Remember that protect as serve is long gone, its now hunt and extort. This shit happens every single day, no knock warrants served on the wrong houses, home owners shot in front of their families, dogs shot with out 2ed thought, houses burned to the ground, trucks of the wrong make, make, model, color, and even size class shot all to hell with people of the wrong Age, Sex, Demographic in it. I can list shit like this for days.....

All this shit, but if you have an intruder in your home trying to hurt you or your family, they have no duty to come to your aid if they feel their life will be put into jeopardy.

[Exodus_2pt0]

I do agree Sleeve, but the us vs. them mentality is a self fulfilling prophecy.

This thread is a perfect example, many here are chomping at the bit to see these cops hang, without even getting the whole story.

I think the mentality here would probably put me a little more on edge if I were a Police officer.

Unless the cops are blatantly over stepping their bounds, just leave them be. They really do deal with a ton of shit each day, so I feel like the best thing to do would be to act in a respectful manner and let them do their job. Police are nothing but human, and we can all act out of character when stress levels escalate. Every time someone harrasses an officer that is just doing his job, that makes it worse for the next person he interacts with.