Hawthorne Police Officer shooting dog. (NSFW)

[mrsleeve]

Well Filming of the police doing their job from a distance on public ROW or Property is 100% legal. Most cops dont like being filmed doing their job, and will try and strong arm you into stopping and even demand to witness your delete the files if you "dont want be jailed" on some BS charge. SO if you knuckle under to them and comply when you were doing nothing illegal in the 1st place, You tell me where we are living when the agents of the state can act like this and get away with it time and time again.

This dude was held over night on "SUSPICION of obstruction of justice and was released at 5 a.m. the next morning. From what I have found NO CHARGES WERE ACTUALLY FILED. So he gets a night in Jail and a dead dog for filming the police and playing some music over a block away. What about all the other cars that drive around with stereos that you can hear from a 1/2 mile off. Why were the police not chasing down those cars for obstruction and interfering with a police operation???

Because this guy was filming a the barricade line the police set up of a SWAT team dealing with a robbery. Questionable behavior from a guy with a bit of a history with the local L/E and asking for trouble? YES................... Illegal MOST DEFIANTLY NOT...... deserve to be tossed in jail for the night on some trumped up charge, and have to deal with watching them kill your dog FUCK NO....


Yes cops have to deal with the dregs of society, and that can get to you. But in being a cop there is no way in this day and age you DIDN"T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOUR SELF INTO. Police have a higher standard to be held to, especially those that deal with the public, I am not guilty of a crime just for walking around at 2am, I am not guilty of a crime just for driving though, I am not guilty of a crime for taking pictures of buildings or cops doing their job. I, you an everyone else is INNOCENT until proven guilty........ Something that has been lost in the translation in the last 30 years of just doing their job. The L/E agents of all aspects are becoming the protected class, and their methodology is getting more and more ruthless as so are their fuck ups

While I can agree with F4 there that its ultimately the idiots fault for his dog getting shot by putting himself and his animal in a position where this could happen, it most certainly should never have happened and the police should not have been messing with a citizen doing nothing wrong like they were.

[QUKBMER]

Im going to go throw up my lunch now watching that, im very sick to my stomach at this point. That is soooooo sad.

[GaryE30]

Im going to go throw up my lunch now watching that, im very sick to my stomach at this point. That is soooooo sad.

I showed my wife and she ran off after the first shot. Our 2 labs were sitting on the couch with us when I showed her the video. Its pretty sad.

[750]

As shitty as this is, I feel it is the owners fault.

I'm sure that dog's owner knew his dog was protective. So why would he even bring the dog into that situation? Then he failed by not securing the animal, which I'm sure he also knew that the dog would be willing to jump out. Hell I had a rot jump out of a truck window from 6 feet to go greet another animal. I'm sure he would have jumped from higher if he felt I was in danger.

In the end, IMO, this is the owners fault. We don't know why the police approached him, but from the looks things this was a relatively serious crime scene. They could have already been on edge and just wanted to ask the guy some questions. Until the entire story comes out I think it is a little unfair to blame the police.

That officer demonstrated a hesitation to shoot the animal. He only shot after repeated lunges and obvious acts of aggression. I don't think I would have let that dog get ahold of me either.

Sad day indeed, I feel for the owner, but I'll wait before I grab my pitchfork and torch.

+1
Lesson- do not be stupid around police.

[E30 Wagen]

The way that black dude was scoping out the scene with this baggy shorts, harassing the cops with his videorecording, making the race of the cops an issue, going on about a "civil rights violation" and generally acting proud as fuck initially pissed me off. The idiot fucking had it coming. He must have been yelling some foul crap at those cops to make them come over. The police have a job to do - let them do it, and you can have your say when they're out of the way.

However, shooting the dog was way out of control. It ran over but then backed off and was very hesitant and confused by the situation. I saw no viscious barking or snarling or any kind of aggressiveness. It didn't "lunge" at the cop. The cop was approaching it with an outstretched arm and the dog made an instinctive jump which was not in any way aggressive - its mouth was closed! It was terrible judgement by the police officer and I get the impression that more than anything it was to teach the guy a lesson. Fucking pathetic police work and I would fire that guy.

That being said, if my dog is ever shot in a situation like that, the shooter would probably end up needing a facial reconstruction surgery. Disregard the life of my dog and I'll disregard your nasal bone structure.

[GaryE30]

We need a "like" button here because ^^^^

I couldn't agree more with the second half of this statement.

[10Toes]

^^ we need a racist commie button here.

[Dozyproductions]

Well Filming of the police doing their job from a distance on public ROW or Property is 100% legal. Most cops dont like being filmed doing their job, and will try and strong arm you into stopping and even demand to witness your delete the files if you "dont want be jailed" on some BS charge. SO if you knuckle under to them and comply when you were doing nothing illegal in the 1st place, You tell me where we are living when the agents of the state can act like this and get away with it time and time again.

This dude was held over night on "SUSPICION of obstruction of justice and was released at 5 a.m. the next morning. From what I have found NO CHARGES WERE ACTUALLY FILED. So he gets a night in Jail and a dead dog for filming the police and playing some music over a block away. What about all the other cars that drive around with stereos that you can hear from a 1/2 mile off. Why were the police not chasing down those cars for obstruction and interfering with a police operation???

Because this guy was filming a the barricade line the police set up of a SWAT team dealing with a robbery. Questionable behavior from a guy with a bit of a history with the local L/E and asking for trouble? YES................... Illegal MOST DEFIANTLY NOT...... deserve to be tossed in jail for the night on some trumped up charge, and have to deal with watching them kill your dog FUCK NO....


Yes cops have to deal with the dregs of society, and that can get to you. But in being a cop there is no way in this day and age you DIDN"T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOUR SELF INTO. Police have a higher standard to be held to, especially those that deal with the public, I am not guilty of a crime just for walking around at 2am, I am not guilty of a crime just for driving though, I am not guilty of a crime for taking pictures of buildings or cops doing their job. I, you an everyone else is INNOCENT until proven guilty........ Something that has been lost in the translation in the last 30 years of just doing their job. The L/E agents of all aspects are becoming the protected class, and their methodology is getting more and more ruthless as so are their fuck ups

While I can agree with F4 there that its ultimately the idiots fault for his dog getting shot by putting himself and his animal in a position where this could happen, it most certainly should never have happened and the police should not have been messing with a citizen doing nothing wrong like they were.

x2

"Putting himself and his dog in that position" is what's wrong as you later added. There shouldn't be such a "position" for him to put himself in, in the first place!

Justifying the police's actions is scary to hear from you people.

[cale]

Justifying the police's actions is scary to hear from you people.

As is an individual claiming the shooting of a dog lunging at cops is an act of terrorism.

Maybe I'm just unpatriotic?

[QUKBMER]

That being said, if my dog is ever shot in a situation like that, the shooter would probably end up needing a facial reconstruction surgery. Disregard the life of my dog and I'll disregard your nasal bone structure.

This to the full degree !!!:hitler:

[Dozyproductions]

As is an individual claiming the shooting of a dog lunging at cops is an act of terrorism.

Maybe I'm just unpatriotic?

Look up further definitions of terrorism. It's basically coercion through violence. If you're naive enough that the only form of terrorism wackos blowing up buildings or kids then you have some more searching to do, or more common sense to push into your brain.

To SERVE and PROTECT is the only duty the cops have. Yet now it's a us vs them mentality. How are all these stories you hear of police brutality not an act of terrorism. Many people consider their dogs as part of their family. Seeing their dog shot in front of them would 'terrorize' them. Voila.

If death is the preferred sentence before the crime is committed then you go past everything that you troll about in the political forum.

[smitche]

unless the guy was threatening the officers, he was fully within his rights to be filming, mouthing off, listening to music, and walking around with his dog. his rights were violated at the point of detention (cuffing). I'm sorry, but the police provoked the dog by violating his owners constitutional rights and should therefore be held responsible.

edit: and yes, detention by a government agency for practicing your rights is an act of terrorism

[Dozyproductions]

unless the guy was threatening the officers, he was fully within his rights to be filming, mouthing off, listening to music, and walking around with his dog. his rights were violated at the point of detention (cuffing). I'm sorry, but the police provoked the dog by violating his owners constitutional rights and should therefore be held responsible.

There is no other way to interpret this unless we have more information.

[Arems87e]

THIS


The dumbass thought he would be slick, funny, and try to video tape them. He was obviously putting on a show for the rest of the ghetto and needed to show off.

How many times did this piece of crap pass the cops while there is already an ongoing crime scene going on? He could have been a spectator leaking info or possibly involved. The cops didn't know.

It's just like irresponsible pit bull owners. He put his dog in that situation, as terrible as it was to watch, he shouldn't have antagonized the cops. He knew his dog would defend him, Rotti's are very protective of their owners. If a 120-150 pound dog was lunging and attacking me I would shoot it too. The officers waited till it lunged several times before shooting. And I was a VETERINARY ASSISTANT and I still feel this way. Your safety comes before a strange animals, especially one showing aggressive signs towards you.

Another day in the hood in this video and the guy made his dog pay for it. If anyone has a right to be mad it should be at the the irresponsible owner who felt he had to be funny and put on a show for the hood.

very DUMB Comment, and stereotypical at that. The man is 50+ years old, "obviously putting up a show for the hood" you're an ignorant fool dude. I wonder what you'll have to say about that "hood" if he'd been white.

[Nick_S]

Wall of words

very well said. :up: