SD bans all abortions

[hamann318is]

Jesus Christ. I'm not even going to touch this thread.

[dude8383]

their body isn't the one being destroyed......

My question is, why stop "abortion" while they are in the womb? Why don't you wait till after they are born and "abort" them then, should this be allowed? If you want to debate this with me, be prepared to provide a clear statement of when life is allowed to be "aborted" and when it should not be. As far as i'm concerned, if abortion in the womb isn't immoral, neither would be walking into a hospital and shooting up the nursery.

how can you consider something that only has potential for life be something living?

its not a fully developed human, it is merely being shaped into one while in the womb. abortion laws state that a potential baby can only be aborted in the first trimester, to give you a picture of when a potential life can be aborted.

[thejimlab]

Just to make the thread better, I think assisted suicide should be legal as well.

[dude8383]

ok really you are stupid as crap. "embryo's" have a heart beat and brain waves...soo magically when they pop outta their mom they are officially humans? I hate it when ignorant people try to explain their cause. hOlmes you are like that dumb fag that drove his car through campus b/c their people are a peacefull people and are missunderstood. :loco:

yes it may have a heart beat and brain waves, but a life represents something that can participate with other living things.

Life -
1. The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.

A fetus does not respond to stimuli or adapt to its environment.

Hey asubimmer don't call h0lmes ignorant or a dumb shit or w/e the fuck you wanna call him, because he is stating his opinion and you are stating yours. You have no fuckin authority over, so calm your tities and have a normal argument.

[royalflush313]

The US was founded as a christian nation, that's not an opinion, that's truth.

-Charlie

there's a big difference between founders being christians, and the nation being founded on God.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the US created the constitution which serves as the superior rules for the justification, modification or adjudication of laws and lawsuits. No-where does the constitution appeal to God or even Christianity.
The 1st amedment (i believe) clearly states the state's non-interference with one's right to exercise religion, as well as the prohibition of laws that respects the establishment of religions.
I thought that, at least in my understanding, the Constitution marked the beginning of separation of church and state.

Either way, I think that both can be said. Some believe that US was founded on Christianity, while others do not.


Anyways...

I'm all for abortions, but I'm only gonna further incite the flame war, so I'm going to stop here.

[mrsleeve]

Jesus Christ. I'm not even going to touch this thread.

I with you dude

[shiftbmw]

If the abortion age was 50, we could still abort Carlos Mencia. Something to think about...

[AppState325]

let's just kill anyone we want then. After all, if there isn't a God, is there a reason for morality?

[asubimmer]

the term abortion is just someting to make you not fell bad for murdering someone. It like when people say "their meat" instead of penis b/c they are scared or ashamed to say penis.

I know this is a little bit of a strech but no more extreme then abortion. Some people say its a woman's right to have an abortion. BUT thats like saying that if you are giving someone a ride somewhere in your car and they become an inconvenience you can just pull over...shoot them in the head...push them out and drive on. Its your car...its your belly.

ABORTION IS SELFISH!!!

[Dave]

the term abortion is just someting to make you not fell bad for murdering someone. It like when people say "their meat" instead of penis b/c they are scared or ashamed to say penis.

I know this is a little bit of a strech but no more extreme then abortion. Some people say its a woman's right to have an abortion. BUT thats like saying that if you are giving someone a ride somewhere in your car and they become an inconvenience you can just pull over...shoot them in the head...push them out and drive on. Its your car...its your belly.

ABORTION IS SELFISH!!!

Let Pat Robertson and Operation Rescue be put on notice - this guy is a perfect recruit - brainwashed full tilt.

[boom-monkey]

Fact of the matter is none of you are a female.

The choice to have an abortion is a devistating one.

A woman's body is her property, and she should have the right to decide what happens to it.

My 2 cents.

[asubimmer]

Fact of the matter is none of you are a female.

The choice to have an abortion is a devistating one.

A woman's body is her property, and she should have the right to decide what happens to it.

My 2 cents.

yeah its her body...like the car is your property BUT the baby's life is not the mother's property, etc.

AND DaveCN you can't say that abortion is not selfish...its the "easy" way out of your "problems/inconvenience"

sooo I guess you guys agree w/ the saying "I brought you into this world, I can take you out"?

[AppState325]

Fact of the matter is none of you are a female.

The choice to have an abortion is a devistating one.

A woman's body is her property, and she should have the right to decide what happens to it.

My 2 cents.

I agree 100% that you should have all the rights to your body.

But does that give you the right to the infant's body too? Is the mother the one killed during the abortion?

And about the "potential human" thing.....what defines human? I'm very interested in your response, b/c you are treading on some dangerous territory by saying that.

[boom-monkey]

Your relating a car to a womans body. You must get all the ladies.

The fetus cannot survive without the womans body, and is attached to her. Hence making it still part of her body.

[Dave]

yeah its her body...like the car is your property BUT the baby's life is not the mothers.

AND DaveCN you can't say that abortion is not selfish...its the "easy" way out of your "problems/inconvenience"

Supporting Bush's tax cuts was too. And in many ways morally wrong. Does that make it illegal? I think not.

If a girl gets raped or is subjected to incest, or is subjected to serious harm, I think in those cases, at a minimum, she gets to be selfish.

Notwithstanding the fallacies that support a lot of the arguments of the "pro-life" people, they cannot morally justify what SD just passed. Girl gets raped and knocked up - too bad - you have no choice.

THose same fucktards will lament the "drain" that the poor are on the tax base.