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[E30 Wagen]

Great thread. I hope it's not too late for me to add my thoughts to it...

JGood, I understand what you mean when it comes to "corrupt" churches. One experience that makes my blood boil involves this one church that we ended up leaving. This particular church thought it was necessary to raise $40,000 for this huge projection system for the hymnals so that people wouldn't have to physically open the hymnal books to sing. I wouldn't necessarily call this corrupt, just really fucking stupid. Do you think that $40,000 could have been used for something more beneficial to our community? ... I think so. And, I'm sure there are hundreds of other churches across the United States more worried about upkeeping the facilities they congregate in than the starving people on the streets. Honestly, has Christianity really been that beneficial to the world in its 2000 year history? It seems to create nothing but conflict.

Question for you Christians: Do you believe that Jesus literally rose into the sky, into the clouds, and into Heaven three days after his crucifiction?

[markseven]

Great thread. I hope it's not too late for me to add my thoughts to it...

JGood, I understand what you mean when it comes to "corrupt" churches. One experience that makes my blood boil involves this one church that we ended up leaving. This particular church thought it was necessary to raise $40,000 for this huge projection system for the hymnals so that people wouldn't have to physically open the hymnal books to sing. I wouldn't necessarily call this corrupt, just really fucking stupid. Do you think that $40,000 could have been used for something more beneficial to our community? ... I think so. And, I'm sure there are hundreds of other churches across the United States more worried about upkeeping the facilities they congregate in than the starving people on the streets. Honestly, has Christianity really been that beneficial to the world in its 2000 year history? It seems to create nothing but conflict.

Orphanages, Hospitals, relief and education in Third World countries, etc.

Question for you Christians: Do you believe that Jesus literally rose into the sky, into the clouds, and into Heaven three days after his crucifiction?

Absolutely. What I can't believe is this beautiful world comprised of so many different species and ecosystems was created through a large explosion somewhere in space. Fond memories, the way a mother loves her children, a cold glass of water... not from chaos but from a Master Craftsman whose intelligence and perfection is far beyond the limited understanding of a mere human :D

[Julien]

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[LINUS]

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Then become a choirboy in the Catholic church.

[Ray Smoodiver]

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[JGood]

That's a lot of responses. Well...

I can tell you I knew I didn't believe in any type of God long before I realized church sucks. Then when I realized the only basis of believing in this God was a piece of shit organization, it didn't take much for me to bail.

I am 50/50 on if the world was created through a natural or evolutionary process, or if there is a supreme being. I refuse to go any further then that, because it's not logical. I believe if it is a supreme being of sorts, it's not the God the Christian Religion is talking about. I cannot believe any part of the religion. No matter what I read or try to believe, my mind cannot do it. I've tried. I'm not going to spend my life trying to believe something my instincts and morals tell me not too. As I said, if I'm going to go to hell for having my own beliefs, so be it, I am totally fine with that. I will not live my life trying to believe something I don't. I have no fear or excitement of whatever afterlife may be in store for me, because I cannot possibly fathom what it would be and it's a waste of time doing so, as nobody, not you, not me, nobody, KNOWS for sure.

[assoutE12]

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