VT Plot Thickens!

[s0urce]

WOW. This is so bizzare. After the first set of shootings he mailed videos and photos to NBC! He talks about doing this for his children, and brothers, and sisters. Do you guys think he is referring to his fellow Koreans as his brothers/sisters/children. What possessed him to do this? He talks about his hatred for the wealthy...

I personally think it has to do with our nation's policys and treatment of Korea, but who can be sure.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/?GT1=9246

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=925bc281-ce20-439e-9682-8cc58066b2bf&p=hotvideo_m_vatech&t=c3556&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/?GT1=9246&fg=

[Kruzen]

Zang

[M42Technik]

Holy shit...that is disturbing...there is no question in my mind that he needed more than just therapy, but to take the time to break down 27 videos of expressing hatred and the time to mail them...

...God help us.

[Jon325i]

What possessed him to do this?

People can speculate about his actions and come up with a thousand theories as to why he did it. The video and letters may shed some light but ultimately we won't know every detail since he has assumed room tempurature. It will be chalked up as a valuable lesson learned and the various behavioral signs he displayed will be taken more seriously from this day forward.

The whole thing is just utterly sad.

Jon

[backtrail69]

Seriously scary that you could be living your life along side people like this and not know it..

[JGood]

Seriously scary that you could be living your life along side people like this and not know it..

A dude in my grade in high school (I had English class with him, other then that didn't know him really) blasted away his foster parents (they adopted him, isn't that fucked up). It happened in my small town of like 5,000 people. Barely made the local news. He was kind of weird, but I didn't see that coming.

[chucko]

He didn't do this for Koreans, he had no contact whatsoever with Koreans. This guy had no friends at all, not even one. He was an outcast. A true psychopath. I really think the school has a lot of explaining to do. They let this guy on their campus, they did nothing to help this kid. If the university is not going to help this kid (that they let into their school) become a functional member of society then kick him the fuck out of school. Don't just let him roam around stalking people and plotting murder. This is different from a highschool that has to let students attend, a college has an admissions process which is supposed to be a filter.

[ivo316]

What makes me wonder is that these freaks tend to show up in more developed societies, for example, the US or europe, here in the "third world" those kind of guys seldom appear, whe have never had a school killer (at least not one that kills more than one classmate) here in Chile, it happened once in Argentina though, maybe it's that satistically it's bound to happen in a country with lots of times the population of Chile .

I don't really know, I think that the authorities should try to look at the overall picture here, not just at this case, and find a common denominator in people that do this, maybe then the things that twist this people in the first place could be avoided, or they could be watched and treated, even watched and shot on time, whatever.

[schmidty]

I personally think it has to do with our nation's policys and treatment of S. Korea, but who can be sure.

I think it's pretty clear the guy is just insane. He had an imaginary girlfriend, he called himself question mark and he talked about the pain of being torched, having your neck slit from ear to ear. Clearly he is dilusional and has a sense of false reality (or at least exagerated reality) since non of these things were actually real. Who knows the cause of it though... bullying? parenting?

[Julien]

Luckily people like him can still purchase hand guns in this country to "defend themselves!!"


God Bless America.

[JasonC]

If he couldn't get his hands on a gun, he propobly would of straped a bomb to him self and commited a suicide bombing.

[Julien]

I don't agree... guns are the common denominator in this country.

[imsotyerred]

He didn't do this for Koreans, he had no contact whatsoever with Koreans. This guy had no friends at all, not even one. He was an outcast. A true psychopath. I really think the school has a lot of explaining to do. They let this guy on their campus, they did nothing to help this kid. If the university is not going to help this kid (that they let into their school) become a functional member of society then kick him the fuck out of school. Don't just let him roam around stalking people and plotting murder. This is different from a highschool that has to let students attend, a college has an admissions process which is supposed to be a filter.

:roll:

wrong. several teachers flagged him as abnormal and two girls almost got a restraining order on him for stalking (it's too bad they didn't). a friend worried that he was suicidal and the school admitted him to a phsychiatric hostpital for examination. he was released as a functional member of society. the school could do no more than that.

the only thing tech did incorrectly was keep the campus open and students in the dark. the email notice of the first shooting should have been sent out much earlier and classes should have been canceled, at least for part of the day. The reason they didn't do so is because nobody ever expected the situation to escalate as it it did; the school figured that it was a typical love triangle (as there was a male and female shot in the dorm), the killer had fled, and that was that.

[ed94r]

It's not the *means* of the murders that is important. It's the motivation. This guy could have killed people with a box cutter (where have we seen that before?).

If a person who is undeniably mentally insane on every level and by any measurement, is violent and has violent plans, He will be almost impossible to stop unless he is totally and securely isolated. If a person has no regard for their OWN life, They surely have no regard for any other. There are thousands of mentally unstable people in this country. Should we round them up? Where are we gonna put them? Will the liberals and the ACLU step aside and let this happen?

College campuses are supposed to be a place where free/open thinking is encouraged. They are not prisons, nor are they mental evaluation facilities. My college application did not include a mental evaluation or assesment. A locked down, metal detector'd, body searched place is not a free thinking place.

There will be lessons learned from this. But to blame guns or university policy is taking your eye off the ball. On the flip side of the gun arguement, if VT weren't a "gun free zone" and a professor or student in one of those classrooms had been armed, would the outcome have changed? You wont see this argument being brougt up by the mainstream media. It's too inconvenient. Also, do you think that if Cho couldn't have been able to buy a legal weapon, it would have stopped his plans? It's all in the motivation.

Ed

[nando]

I personally think it has to do with our nation's policys and treatment of S. Korea, but who can be sure.

I think you meant north korea...


what's really fucked up is they didn't close the school. seriously, I'm pretty certain they would have closed campus immediately if two bodies had been found at my university. but all the coulda shoulda woulda in the world doesn't make any difference now..