Gun Thread

[Rob]

Without knowing what you have otherwise, the answer is ammo.

For a fighting rifle, I would rather have an optic first, ff rail gains nothing if you aren’t using a white light or PEQ. Most do not outshoot their capabilities of their rifle necessitating going free float with irons

Ammo is always a consideration, but have a decent supply. I don't have the time or locations to really shoot rifles much, so this is really a hypothetical exercise. I've never gotten beyond the basics with any long gun, always been a pistol guy, so I'm not out shooting anything.

Practically speaking, I'll never try to reach out beyond 100yds, never shoot for tiny groups, just do some blasting with the old man. Red dot makes sense for that I think. Handguard down the road, if ever.

[TeXJ]

Finally got to shoot some today. Had a friend wanting to go since he doesn't have a day job anymore(got let go and is trying to start up his consulting business) and his daughter flew in last night so all three of us went out.

It was really muddy but still fun!

[eternal24k]

Plotting (as always).

I have a bone stock ar carbine, and can't leave well enough alone. FF rail, or some sort of optic?

Without knowing what you have otherwise, the answer is ammo.

For a fighting rifle, I would rather have an optic first, ff rail gains nothing if you aren’t using a white light or PEQ. Most do not outshoot their capabilities of their rifle necessitating going free float with irons

[myinfernalbmw]

The obvious answer is both of course. I can't be of any real help. That PSA lower I got for my 7.5" meme gun quickly spiraled and now I'm in the process of assembling 3 different ARs lol.

[Rob]

Plotting (as always).

I have a bone stock ar carbine, and can't leave well enough alone. FF rail, or some sort of optic?

[myinfernalbmw]

She hasn't shot much, but she does know the basics. She can handle my 357 sp101, and back in the day she fired a round from my 30-06, screamed, then came back 5 minutes later to fire it again.

She is a small girl, but was raised in this life so while she isn't a very experienced shooter, she does have experience and knows what to expect.

Speaking of scope eye. Got a bloody finger from a 12 guage when I was around 8 years old and my grandfather said "OK, you aren't quite ready for that." Then when I was 10 I got my first scope eye from my dad's 30-06 lol.

Lol I had a fun learning experience at an embarrassingly late stage (18ish years old) in my life with a pistol grip only 12ga loaded with heavy sabot slugs. I'm happy to report I didn't lose any teeth, but did come quite close.

[Ryan...]

Jack Bauer approves.

I'm not even going to lie and say that had nothing to do with it :)

[Exodus_2pt0]

I'd skip the spooky loads on an 870. I'd install a +2 tube extension and practice reloading personally. I haven't found the 870 to be able to reliably run a ghost load. The biggest drawback to a shotgun is the capacity and being able to quickly get a shot off from empty is going to be far more valuable than sneaking an unreliable +1 into it.

Also if you're going to get your wife on it for home defense, I'd recommend practicing with low recoil defense loads. I know my wife wasn't a fan of shooting standard .mil boxed 00 buck at all and had no interest in picking up a shotgun after that. I don't know how familiar your wife is to guns and shooting, but please don't be the guy that hands her a shotgun without showing her how to properly shoulder it (if she doesn't already). One of the biggest turn offs to new shooters are getting beat up by a gun or freak out due to the unexpected recoil. Admittedly I used to find it funny watching morons get scope bite or knocked on their ass from the recoil on a shotgun, but I sure as hell don't want to stand near those people at the range, and more importantly don't want them to represent the broader gun community. (steps back off soapbox)

She hasn't shot much, but she does know the basics. She can handle my 357 sp101, and back in the day she fired a round from my 30-06, screamed, then came back 5 minutes later to fire it again.

She is a small girl, but was raised in this life so while she isn't a very experienced shooter, she does have experience and knows what to expect.

Speaking of scope eye. Got a bloody finger from a 12 guage when I was around 8 years old and my grandfather said "OK, you aren't quite ready for that." Then when I was 10 I got my first scope eye from my dad's 30-06 lol.

[Rob]

Jack Bauer approves.

[Ryan...]

That was short lived. Lol Hope you shoot the USP better. Just out of curiosity did you bench rest the VP9 to isolate if it was the gun or you? Funny how some guns can feel so good or bad but shoot poorly for some and great for others. I shoot glocks pretty well, but they always feel awkward.

Short lived indeed lol

I didn't bench test it, I passed it around to my friends at the PD and 4/5 of them shot it as poorly as I did, one guy was plinking soda cans at 20 yards so I figured it was us and not the gun..

After 300 rounds of terrible targets (with brief moments of brilliance every 50 rounds) I knew I wasn't really going to trust the gun as well as I trust my old faithful Glock 17. If I wasn't going to carry the VP9 on duty, there was no reason to keep it vs getting a "fun" gun like the USP.

The USP is just such a solid chunk of metal, it's so heavy it's almost comical. But, I find myself just carrying it around the apartment with me because I love how it looks and feels

[naplesE30]

Traded my VP9 for a USP 45.I tried, but just couldn't get comfortable shooting the vp9. Was frustrating because it felt fantastic in my hands, I just couldn't hit anything!

Anywho, it all worked out because I ended up with the HK I always wanted, the USP :)

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That was short lived. Lol Hope you shoot the USP better. Just out of curiosity did you bench rest the VP9 to isolate if it was the gun or you? Funny how some guns can feel so good or bad but shoot poorly for some and great for others. I shoot glocks pretty well, but they always feel awkward.

[Ryan...]

Traded my VP9 for a USP 45.I tried, but just couldn't get comfortable shooting the vp9. Was frustrating because it felt fantastic in my hands, I just couldn't hit anything!

Anywho, it all worked out because I ended up with the HK I always wanted, the USP :)

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[e30RS]

Have a Benelli m4 tactical, just waiting for the class three stamp. I will post photos of it in action when I get it. The 870 is a great choice overall, was a dept. carry for years for me.

[myinfernalbmw]

I'd skip the spooky loads on an 870. I'd install a +2 tube extension and practice reloading personally. I haven't found the 870 to be able to reliably run a ghost load. The biggest drawback to a shotgun is the capacity and being able to quickly get a shot off from empty is going to be far more valuable than sneaking an unreliable +1 into it.

Also if you're going to get your wife on it for home defense, I'd recommend practicing with low recoil defense loads. I know my wife wasn't a fan of shooting standard .mil boxed 00 buck at all and had no interest in picking up a shotgun after that. I don't know how familiar your wife is to guns and shooting, but please don't be the guy that hands her a shotgun without showing her how to properly shoulder it (if she doesn't already). One of the biggest turn offs to new shooters are getting beat up by a gun or freak out due to the unexpected recoil. Admittedly I used to find it funny watching morons get scope bite or knocked on their ass from the recoil on a shotgun, but I sure as hell don't want to stand near those people at the range, and more importantly don't want them to represent the broader gun community. (steps back off soapbox)

[Rob]

That’s what I was thinking, but I’ve been wrong before...