Gun Thread

[Rob]

Have a ~1969 Marlin 336 in 30-30, it is awesome!

I read reports that their QC was hit or miss during the Remington takeover, but it looks like they are pretty well sorted now. I'd love one of the new 357 models as a Cowboy Assault Rifle!

[R3Z3N]

Oh man, I love shooting my Win 94 30-30, even in 3 gun!

[mrsleeve]

but you can shoot pointy projectiles out of the 99 and 300sav other than being hard to get Preminimum ammo for anymore other than around deer season in the mid west and NE is very close in performance to 308, I have one in both 300sav and 308.

[Mediumrarechicken]

Winchester 94. I just looked on gunbroker and there are just a few savage 99's in 30 30, tons in savage 300

[mrsleeve]

pre 1 mill serial number Savage Model 1899 other wise known as the 99.

[Exodus_2pt0]

Anybody here know lever actions? Been eyeing up some lately. Always was interested in them, and want to own one.

I'm torn between a .357 magnum and 30-30. Also, I have heard that Marlins have gone down hill lately. I like the side loader feature, and would like to go with that over the tube load.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

I don't really need it in 30-30. I do intend to hunt with it, bit that will be with iron sights and under 100 yards so I imagine the .357 would be fine. I also already have a .357 so it would mean one less caliber ammo to buy.

[TeXJ]

nice

[coldweatherblue]

what shells do you use and which choke do ya run for gobblers?

hey man, most shots around here are less than 35 yrds so I keep it simple with a full choke and rem nitro turkey no 5 shot. No luck the other day but going again tomorrow.

[naplesE30]

I follow the mentality that if someone is inside my house when I a or any member of my family is home they have crossed the line from burglar to killer breaking in with the purpose to do bodily harm. Burglars break in when they know the home is empty, someone who enters an occupied house is a totally different type of criminal. As such they are not afraid, and likely armed the same as I. I would respond and act as though they are trying to kill. The last thing I want is to prepare them by giving away my location and weapon of choice.

[R3Z3N]

^ +1

I am not advertising my location if I know them to already be in the house. I do not take advise from Joe Biden.

[myinfernalbmw]

On the topic of home defense, nothing like the sound of cocking a pump action to make the perp think twice about what is about to go down. Now obviously the trade off of that is mobility, but done correctly, you can develop a “sweep and clear” style defense plan to make sure you are dealing with as few tight angles as possible, where mobility would be an issue. Also don’t have to deal with wall penetration like you would with jacketed bullets.

This advice routinely makes me mutter my way to the door at gun stores-



I say that in jest, but it does irritate the shit out of me when some matter-of-fact gun store employee starts spewing advice to someone that is clearly new and less informed without explaining how many factors there are to consider.

While a shotgun is a super effective defense weapon, over penetration inside a house is just as big if not greater concern than other pistol and rifle rounds. All you have to do is look at buckshot and slug tests on drywall. They will effectively punch through more layers than you're likely to encounter inside your house, and still carry enough energy to be a problem on the other side. I used to have a home defense shotgun before we had a little freeloader in the room next door. Over penetration became a real concern for me and I didn't feel comfortable with the idea of a stray pellet getting away. Obviously shot placement is key, but having 9 chances for a miss per trigger pull made it a less than ideal option for me. Preference as mentioned is huge. Ammo choice is huge. Home layout and neighbor proximity is huge.

I'll get off my soap box now. I don't want it to seem like I'm saying what you're doing is wrong, or suggest you haven't already considered all of this. My concern is when people throw out advice, it can get picked up by a less informed individual who may take it as gospel without knowing better.

Oh, and the shotgun thing. It would be better to have it already loaded than to let the intruder(s) know your position.

Again it comes down to personal preference, but agreed. I'm not advertising where I am to an intruder. I'm also not going to skyblast my SxS out the window like creepy uncle Joe suggests.

[TeXJ]

That suppressed carbine is badass ^

I haven’t been around here for awhile, so I’m just now catching up on the thread. I am part of the 1911 crew, I’ve shot countless Glocks and I couldn’t even hit myself with it if I tried. That said, firearms in general are 95% preferences, and 5% quality.

On the topic of home defense, nothing like the sound of cocking a pump action to make the perp think twice about what is about to go down. Now obviously the trade off of that is mobility, but done correctly, you can develop a “sweep and clear” style defense plan to make sure you are dealing with as few tight angles as possible, where mobility would be an issue. Also don’t have to deal with wall penetration like you would with jacketed bullets.

Funny (but slightly scary) story. Growing up, my mom kept her Beretta 92T with her whenever my dad was out of town. My bedroom was on the opposite side of the house from theirs (directly across the house from the front door). Thought nothing of it, until my dad found out she had FMJs loaded. He had to explain to her that if she shot an intruder with FMJs, the bullet would go through him, through the wall behind him, through the fridge behind that, through me, and likely into the neighbors house. LOL.


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Welcome back man! haven't seen ya on here in a hot moment.



Oh, and the shotgun thing. It would be better to have it already loaded than to let the intruder(s) know your position.

[HennaE30]

That suppressed carbine is badass ^

I haven’t been around here for awhile, so I’m just now catching up on the thread. I am part of the 1911 crew, I’ve shot countless Glocks and I couldn’t even hit myself with it if I tried. That said, firearms in general are 95% preferences, and 5% quality.

On the topic of home defense, nothing like the sound of cocking a pump action to make the perp think twice about what is about to go down. Now obviously the trade off of that is mobility, but done correctly, you can develop a “sweep and clear” style defense plan to make sure you are dealing with as few tight angles as possible, where mobility would be an issue. Also don’t have to deal with wall penetration like you would with jacketed bullets.

Funny (but slightly scary) story. Growing up, my mom kept her Beretta 92T with her whenever my dad was out of town. My bedroom was on the opposite side of the house from theirs (directly across the house from the front door). Thought nothing of it, until my dad found out she had FMJs loaded. He had to explain to her that if she shot an intruder with FMJs, the bullet would go through him, through the wall behind him, through the fridge behind that, through me, and likely into the neighbors house. LOL.



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[e30RS]

Gun "stuff"

Carbine suppressed.

[naplesE30]

Well I think I love it due to changing the grip itself and the mag, feels completely different but I am definitely considering the recommendations, I feel as though I made a mistake buying the 3.5" 1911 instead of the Glock he was showing me, I just didn't like that it feels so light

For what your likely going to get for trade in your problem better off just keeping it, especially if you enjoy it. Just an officer 1911 is a heck of a gun to cut your teeth on.

Whenever I buy a new gun. I identify a need or purpose before even looking g at different models.... for example. If I decide I need a ccw weapon it drives my options. I know I want the following.
1 most importantly reliability.
2 concealabilty
3 capacity
4 accuracy
5 enjoyable to shoot so I practice with it.
6 price of gun, and to lesser extent ammo

If I'm looking for a home defense gun my list order and ranking of importance are going to be totally different.

Any firearm is going to be a series of trade offs. You need to determine your needs before asking for advice, and if you love the 1911 than stay with that platform, but even with the 1911 your selections will change depending on the guns purpose. For a home defense 1911 you may want a larger 5" barrel and a rail so you can add a light for example.

However. I would stay away from that shop/particular salesman. He could not have sold you a firearm more polar opposite of what you expressed interest in, and his recommendation is counter to what 99% of most experienced shooters would recommend to a first time buyer, and his reasoning behind the 1911 recommendation is even worse.

Also, never practice dry firing with ammo and your gun in the same room, and get some training now, before developing any bad habits. Happy shooting!!

Also, for what it's worth I also own a budget 1911 Remington R1 enhanced. It is by no means a precision hand built 1911. However, I bought it because every American ought to own a 1911, and it is only a fun range toy that I wasnt going to spend thousands on. Ive had it for about 4yrs and never had any issues with it, but it is what it is. I would put it in the same league as a RIA. Nothing wrong with a low end 1911 as long as it runs well, just understand what its limitations are and use it accordingly.