MacBook Pro or G4 Powerbook?

[h0lmes]

Lance why all the anger?

Like I said I have not had many problems at all with any of my machines.
But to be fair with the PC crowd (and in this case not politically correct either), I do have an old compaq Armada 700 running windows 2000 in a church install we did in 2001 that still works great!
I know windows VERY well, I just switched to Apple because of ALL the problems I had with viruses, and not to mention Microsoft's problems with their OSs. Like using the public to beta test their software when it first comes to market.
I also did not like the fact that windows OS came so loaded down with crap I did not need, and I had to spend more for the so called professional OS, and the professional office software.

When you grow up, and you have to run a business, the last thing you will want, is to worry what next?
I pay for the apple professional support ($100 a year) and I NEVER wait at the genius bar for help.

See there is also something your forgetting here too. I use LOTS of computers in my business, and I replace computers every 2-3 years before the warranty runs out. (I did that with PCs to when I used to run them for my work). Computer technology wether it is Apple or PC is really only good for 2-3 years, and that is if your buying REAL machines, and not some cobbled together $500 POS.

Before I bought our new big desktop I did look in to a Dell workstation that would be comparable to the quadcore 3.0 macpro, and the same configured Dell was $1600 more than the mac. Plus now with Vista I am so glad I did not buy that machine. Anyone that says Vista is great, does not use a computer for their business.

We design the lighting systems for lots of broadcast, and recording studios, and I hate to tell you guys this. But 98% of all Post Production Video, Recording, and Post Audio studios use Apple computers.
Apple has cornered the market in movie making with Final Cut video editing.
And almost every REAL recording studio (not home recording) uses Pro Tools on a mac computer. Also National Geographic uses apple for their software called Aperture.
But I guess these businesses are not real, and don't have deadlines to meet? Nor do they look for something stable that will serve them with out little problems?

Can I call you SandyVaginaE30Girl? Not that you have sand in your vagina or anything, but in the spirit of chick bashing on r3v I really, really want to start shit with you.

[Fidhle007]

Alright folks, I've obviously been away from this thread way too long. Those of you that have used Macs, thank you for the opinions. Those of you that have used Macs, and say I should go PC, thanks, but fuck off. Those of you who's brother's cousin's daughter's landlord's former college roomate used a Mac once and had something break, SHUT THE BLOODY FUCK UP ALREADY. I have Apple Computer products older than 60% of R3v's membership that are still completely functional. I am a Mac user, I have always been a Mac user, I have owned and worked on MANY PCs and am STILL A MAC USER.

I asked a specific question about two specific products. Simple.

Right now, I want a roll call: everyone here who has told me to get a PC, I'd like to know how long you've owned your Mac for, what it was, and what it's primary uses/software was. Then I will take your arguments for Windows as valid, but until then I can only view them as ignorant rantings, much like the numerous "Windows Sucks" Mac owner-based comments. Except the Mac owner-based comments are rooted in truth...

[rwh11385]

have i been using Macs long enough for you? (that joystick but with Apple Macintosh). and I've seen Apple grow up and be even more less user-controllable. if you like music for retards, fine. that's your style. you like using white keyboards, fine. but when you start a thread about Macs, or even PCs, in a forum like this debate and arguing will take place. SURPRISE! it's an online forum. don't say fuck off. fuck off you to you queer jumping violin player. go register on a mac forum if you don't like the natural outcome of an off topic thread

[Fanzotti]

have i been using Macs long enough for you? (that joystick but with Apple Macintosh). and I've seen Apple grow up and be even more less user-controllable. if you like music for retards, fine. that's your style. you like using white keyboards, fine. but when you start a thread about Macs, or even PCs, in a forum like this debate and arguing will take place. SURPRISE! it's an online forum. don't say fuck off. fuck off you to you queer jumping violin player. go register on a mac forum if you don't like the natural outcome of an off topic thread

Sorry Lance you haven't. That game is new school and that joystick is modern technology. I've been using apple's since Lemonade Stand was the hot shit game. That game your posting is newer than castle Smurfenstein.

PC's are for folks that live in a box and I'm not talking about the one between your made up girlfriends legs.

PC's are better and Clay Aiken's straight.

[Fidhle007]

PC's are better and Clay Aiken's straight.

QFT!

[Fidhle007]

have i been using Macs long enough for you? (that joystick but with Apple Macintosh). and I've seen Apple grow up and be even more less user-controllable. if you like music for retards, fine. that's your style. you like using white keyboards, fine. but when you start a thread about Macs, or even PCs, in a forum like this debate and arguing will take place. SURPRISE! it's an online forum. don't say fuck off. fuck off you to you queer jumping violin player. go register on a mac forum if you don't like the natural outcome of an off topic thread

Nope, sorry. I still have Apples older than you.

Seriously Lance, shut the fuck up and stay the fuck out of this thread please. I asked for a simple opinion between two specifi computers, not for personal attacks. Grow up and offer me an opinion I can use and will not reject on sight or keep it zipped. It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

[s0urce]

Right now, I want a roll call: everyone here who has told me to get a PC, I'd like to know how long you've owned your Mac for, what it was, and what it's primary uses/software was. Then I will take your arguments for Windows as valid, but until then I can only view them as ignorant rantings, much like the numerous "Windows Sucks" Mac owner-based comments. Except the Mac owner-based comments are rooted in truth...

Fine, get a Mac. Just be sure to load Windows XP so your MP and SP actions in photoshop are a shit load faster.

My 2c.

[Kruzen]

I've just lost my attraction to apple, I used to love them, but OSX has come at a large price to me.

I hate the macbooks and macbook pro's, I stand by the fact that they are poorly built, and apple support is terrible. Why should I need to buy applecare? I have an issue buying an extended warranty on a laptop that I KNOW will break.

And after warranty, what do you have? Crap inverter on the LCD blew out, well Apple won't sell you the part, but they will gladly charge you to install it.. HD fail, tough luck apple will want you to bring it in and replace it.


My ibook went through 3 logic boards, my powerbook 2 superdrives, and the second replacement didn't even fix it, after fighting apple to fix it properly (they claimed it worked fine when they tested it, yet it still burns coasters and makes clicking noises) I finally just bought a damn slot load drive from newegg, ripped the damn thing apart myself and repaired it.

I've just had it. If I call Lenovo support I have a part sent to me overnight within 10 min, including the damn motherboard if I wanted..

I had a T41 die at the office, motherboard went out, called Lenovo, they offered an onsite tech in 2 days (had to order the part) I asked if they could overnight me the part myself, they asked me if I was okay installing it, said yes, and presto, new part next day.

I want apple to support more pro users, who don't like waiting for some apple genius to get to them, nothing pisses me off more then sitting in line for 3 hours to get a damn Superdrive repaired.


Apple with Intel is interesting, and all I have is the OS now, which I admit I still prefer, but with Lenovo imho producing better laptops its time to jump ship again.

As weird as it is, my current fav combo is a Lenovo Thinkpad (my T43p currently) and Windows 2003 Server as the OS, its fast as hell, and has no bloat whatsoever (its still no 2000, but damn its close)

Apple is not for everybody anymore, my next desktop will me an Intel QuadCore.

Completely understandable. Really I prefer my pc as my desktop (winxpsp2 is good enough for me, linux for my work pc, and osx as my laptop OS)

I think OSX does best as a laptop OS, it is very quick on appropriatly powered laptops, etc. It has some functional deficiencies that are easy on a pc but require some terminal experience to get things running along in OSX, mostly for connecting to other hardware devices and stuff via the terminal (firmware requiring an ssh, etc have always given my trouble on my mac but work great on my pc.

I prefer linux or windows for my desktops, but I really think OSX is a great laptop solution and hardware you don't touch much in a laptop either other than fixes so I think thats where apple's current strongsuit is.

[doucy2]

umm this is what you need mine just arrived 5 min ago :D

[Fidhle007]

Which did you get?

[James Crivellone]

umm this is what you need mine just arrived 5 min ago :D

Well if we are using box logic



:p

[doucy2]

Which did you get?

2.33ghz with 2gb ram, and 128mb graphics (the next gen 2.33ghz's come with 256mb graphics)

[Fidhle007]

I'm about to take on a rather large graphics contract and I'm going to talk today with the company about hooking me up with a computer.

[Digitalwave]

Don't ask for it... just shows you aren't up to the task that they are hiring you to do.

[Jscotty]

^2x A contractor without tools = a crackhead.