Official Aviation Thread...

[LateFan]

"Single point of failure" is the news phrase of the day.

[varg]

So far just addressing some of the comment hysteria about the regulations the flight was operating under. A side note, not sure what your beef with someone else giving their 2 cents is when you do it all the time on here

The guy isn't speaking gospel he's just a good place to get coverage of these events compared to the completely clueless and often dishonest media coverage

[flyboyx]

ah man. so sad.


cant wait to hear what blancolirio has to say. lol

[jpod999]

https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-windsor-locks-bradley-international-airport-plane-crash-20191002-jfkph65krrfhxlrlb3eehksdiu-story.html

Scary

[flyboyx]

yes, i watch blancolirio's vids occasionally. sometimes he makes interesting points, but for the most part, i see him as one of those guys that just needs to put his 2 cents in about every single airline mishap in the history of mishaps. being on the inside, i can say for a fact that his speculations are often completely wrong. i do agree that the author of the nyt article i posted above probably doesn't have a type in a 73, but i think his points are more accurate than not.

I don't have a 73 type either, but i sit in the cockpit of them perhaps 2 or 3 times a month. fuck man!!! if the airplane keeps pointing downward, why the hell would you not at least try turning off the trim cutouts? they are right fucking there on the console below the thrust levers. yes, in both situations, they had a lot of shit going on in the cockpit. but a boeing has these great big(huge)(massive) gargantuan) manual trim wheels on each side of the console with great big huge white stripes on them. they are located right next to the captain's and first officer's knee. they are REALLY easy to notice(as in impossible not to) when they rotate. if you are trying to go straight and level or up, yet those big ass wheels keep rotating down??? even sonny should notice that.

also, i am not saying that boeing didnt fuck up. they did....big time. how the hell do you put a system as important as this on an airplane, yet not tell anyone about it?

i believe the nyt author is absolutely correct that airmanship and thinking outside the box a little could have saved the ship in both situations. those pilots didn't know that at the time, but they also come from cultures were thinking outside the box is "frowned upon in this establishment". honestly, this is one of the biggest reasons why asian countries generally have abysmal safety records. look at some the korean air accidents over the last 25 years or so.....just downright stupidity.

in the case of the ethiopian flight, wouldn't you suppose being Boeing MAX pilots, they would have taken notice of what happened with LION air? as i said, i don't even fly that airplane, but not 3 days after the first accident, i recall my contemporaries talking about the trim cutout switches. how the fuck did these jokers not file that in the back of their minds when they climbed into the cockpit every day?

[varg]

an interesting Max article in case any of you missed it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/m...x-crashes.html

Not much new information about the incident itself, but the statements on an abject lack of airmanship among LCC pilots from a developing nation seems like a no-brainer, considering what you see here in the first world.

I prefer Juan Brown's coverage, it is more nuanced and trustworthy than the NYT... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlocOX7tuU0

[BlackbirdM3]

A few shots from Reno.





















Will

[flyboyx]

an interesting Max article in case any of you missed it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/m...x-crashes.html

[mrsleeve]

Will you have some really fantastic shots, ans this is no exception. You have really sharpened your photo skills in this arena and I always look forward to you sharing some of it

[BlackbirdM3]

Looks like a dragonfly. I had an instructor in college that flew those in the Battle Creek guard. Seems like they were retired in the mid 90’s.

Not a Dragonfly, but it is a BAC Jet Provost. I think there might be one racing at Reno in a couple weeks.

Hows this for a cool shot from Oshkosh. I'm pretty happy with that one.

[flyboyx]

Looks like a dragonfly. I had an instructor in college that flew those in the Battle Creek guard. Seems like they were retired in the mid 90’s.

[LateFan]

My buddy in Helena MT has been seeing this flying around the valley and parked at the airport.

[BlackbirdM3]

These pictures was on a roll of film in a canister marked 1942 parade. Not sure what city it was held in.

That would be a Grumman F4F Wildcat.

Will

[roguetoaster]

^
My assumption is Fifth Ave, NYC, based on the only store name that's clearly visible.

[JasonC]

These pictures was on a roll of film in a canister marked 1942 parade. Not sure what city it was held in.