27 years biatch

[parkerbink]

Today I choose not to (or to) take a drink, but 14 plus years ago I was a practicing alcoholic with no choice. AA/NA helped me get to the point I am at now. Over the years I have known and seen many people die that just could not get it.

I am in no way saying anyone else should not drink or that AA is the only solution I am saying it was mine.

I don't care when people that have no experience with AA put it down but when I hear blanket negative statements quoting "stats" and demanding stats of AA's success I get irritated.

AA has no stats due to the simple fact that they are ANONYMOUS there is no record keeping. They do not claim any success rate. I can tell you they help many more than they hinder and all that fail do so by choice.

[Rigmaster]

Hey you guys, move over- there's just not enough room for all of us on Blunt's sack!!!!






;)

[TwoJ's]

Holy shit, this thread spiraled out of control since I last clicked. I for one have to agree that AA is definitely not the answer for me. When I was in high school I was arrested, and the court forced me to to go six months of counseling and attend weekly AA meetings. From the first day I went there, I felt the same way that I did when my mom would drag me to church. I felt I didn't belong there because I didn't agree with what they were teaching, but I was forced to be there. So I sat through it.

I don't for one second buy in to the AA philosophy. It's simply not how I think or view things. Maybe it's the religious aspect of it, or just their attitude about how people "like me" should behave, and if I don't then I'm a bad person and I'm going to end up dead or in jail.

That was a long time ago, and I tried to drink in moderation. It worked for a couple years, and then I came to this environment. Abstaining is just what will work for me. I don't think its the only way. When I was a child, I saw my father relapse and his life seriously deteriorate in a very short amount of time. I woke up one day, and I could picture myself in that situation down the road, so I just quit drinking.

Nothing more to it.

[parkerbink]

Hey you guys, move over- there's just not enough room for all of us on Blunt's sack!!!!;)

I don't think anyone is on blunt's sack I think we are mostly sick of heeter's shit.

[expressfish]

good for you blunt !! When its got you down and low...really low, to start using needles and such, I guesss you gotta get help. Good for you back in the day. Beer on the other hand is different story, at least in my own opinion. I'll drink a cold one for ya, when Im working on my eta tonight---cheers !

[blunttech]

I don't think anyone is on blunt's sack I think we are mostly sick of heeter's shit.

dont mind rig. he normally has a prominent spot with his nose plastered on my grundle while my ballsack does a little mexican hatdance on his forehead and i think he misses that

[StereoInstaller1]

Maybe it's the religious aspect of it, or just their attitude about how people "like me" should behave, and if I don't then I'm a bad person and I'm going to end up dead or in jail.

AA is very specific in NOT having "religious" intent. AA is a spiritual program, very specifically NOT religious.

In fact, that was one of the biggest arguments when the first AA book was being written, primarily by two guys, one who was religious, one who was not.

The non-religious view won.

AA does not judge, does not condone any guilt, or any other condemning attitude...it is not tolerated.

The only thing AA does not tolerate is intolerance.

In fact, if Heeter were to show up at an AA meeting, announce himself as a visitor (no one is required to announce themselves as anything, it is purely voluntary) and proceed to call us all losers, weak and unable to have the willpower to handle drugs and alcohol in moderation, I can tell you EXACTLY what they would tell him...


The entire group would tell him to "keep coming back".


Luke

[DCColegrove]

Yes, Wow out of control thread.

You would never find me defending the people of "Alcoholics Anonymous" (like every place else more than half of them are idiots and probably less than half are actually alcoholic).

However I have been sober longer than I drank mostly due to the book Alcoholics Anonymous and the principals set forth in the book

I go to meetings still mostly for entertainment and on occasion to call some asshole on thier shit in hopes they won't send any new people out to thier death.

The overall point of the "Steps" is:

Grow up.

Take responsibility for your shit.

Go help someone (because it's the right thing to do you selfish little bastard).

Oddly, it works very well...Idiots and all...including me.

[BimmerTom]

Heeter obviously hasn't mastered step one.

[joshh]

Let's focus here people. This is about Blunt and whatever did work for him. Whether you believe in any system or not. Someone off of drugs and or alcohol is a good thing.

If someone is likely to get back on drugs or alcohol and all they can do is to never drink or do the drug again, so be it. If it works, it works.

[atomic]

Let's focus here people. This is about Blunt and whatever did work for him. Whether you believe in any system or not. Someone off of drugs and or alcohol is a good thing.

If someone is likely to get back on drugs or alcohol and all they can do is to never drink or do the drug again, so be it. If it works, it works.

I will toast to that...

[joshh]

I will toast to that...

LMAO.....Smart ass!

[blunttech]

whats really funny is not once did i sing the praises of AA or treatment. i just stated what i did and the process i went thru to get straight. i really dislike the treatment mentality and i would suck heeters dick before i went to see any kind of counselor. on the other hand i bet heeter would suck my dick on the way to see his counselor.

[CleanAzzE30z]

This kind of argument always gets me. I must remove myself. Plus Im too lazy to type out everything I think. When addiction hits you personally and you have to intimately deal with it (not just judging your alky uncle, but living with him), then you will understand better. Its easy to label everything a weakness, it absolves you of any guilt in having to help do something to help these people.



But I lol'd @ "r3vs own Rick James" hahahahhaa



Mariano

[s0urce]

s0urce, your arrogant ass can join him. You guys can be recreational users together.

Oh boo fucking hoo. INTERNETS