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    #91
    Originally posted by parkerbink View Post
    Would you say that to someone with cancer or some other deadly disease?

    Only grow operable tumors?

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      #92
      Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber View Post
      Only grow operable tumors?
      please keep those tumors to a minimum sir. youll be fine
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        #93
        Originally posted by blunt View Post
        what a great analogy. i hope you never have kids who have a substance problem. what will you do? tell em to butch up and use responsibly?
        I'll be mad at myself for not raising them right. Where did your parents go wrong? You even knew you were wrong in starting at 14 yet decided to make the problem worse than control it.

        You had self-control not to take a drink in 27 years, but not enough to handle drinking responsibly...

        the whole grumpy old man thing makes more sense now

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          #94
          Originally posted by parkerbink View Post
          Would you say that to someone with cancer or some other deadly disease?


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            #95


            Fucking celebrate.

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              #96
              Originally posted by rwh11385 View Post
              I'll be mad at myself for not raising them right. Where did your parents go wrong? You even knew you were wrong in starting at 14 yet decided to make the problem worse than control it.

              You had self-control not to take a drink in 27 years, but not enough to handle drinking responsibly...
              Hmmm.

              No point in arguing here.

              The sky is a different color where he lives.

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                #97
                "Turn on, tune in, drop out."

                ^ I plan on doing it once before the age of 25. There is good and bad to everything.

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                  #98
                  There are also studies that say some people are chemically and mentally dispositioned to be obese, so we should tell them there is no way they can be in shape?



                  The Rockefeller subjects also had a psychiatric syndrome, called semi-starvation neurosis, which had been noticed before in people of normal weight who had been starved. They dreamed of food, they fantasized about food or about breaking their diet. They were anxious and depressed; some had thoughts of suicide. They secreted food in their rooms. And they binged.

                  The Rockefeller researchers explained their observations in one of their papers: “It is entirely possible that weight reduction, instead of resulting in a normal state for obese patients, results in an abnormal state resembling that of starved nonobese individuals.”

                  Eventually, more than 50 people lived at the hospital and lost weight, and every one had physical and psychological signs of starvation. There were a very few who did not get fat again, but they made staying thin their life’s work, becoming Weight Watchers lecturers, for example, and, always, counting calories and maintaining themselves in a permanent state of starvation.

                  “Did those who stayed thin simply have more willpower?” Dr. Hirsch asked. “In a funny way, they did.”
                  Should OCD patients give up on being able to control themselves? Marc Summers should have never been able to host a tv show since he is a victim of a disease!!

                  Oh no, but alcoholics are different than any other group because there is no possible way they can control their behavior!
                  Last edited by rwh11385; 06-24-2008, 07:22 PM.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by rwh11385 View Post
                    Oh no, but alcoholics are different than any other group because there is no possible way they can control their behavior!
                    Millions have stopped drinking, not through control, but through giving up. That's the conundrum of alcoholism it's necessary to quit to win.

                    You demonstrate alcoholic tendencies, based on your response I'd say you are in fear & denial.

                    Hopefully you don't have to waste alot of years before you work it out.

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                      Hey, rwh11385, quit being an asshole. We're not just talking about alcohol here. And quit being such a fucking know-it-all.

                      Addictions are hard as fuck to overcome, that is, as hard as blunt's dick when it's inside your mouth.
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                        Telling someone who is seemingly unable to control there drinking that they have a disease which makes it impossible is somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy, correct?

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                          Originally posted by rwh11385 View Post

                          Oh no, but alcoholics are different than any other group because there is no possible way they can control their behavior!
                          No, incorrect alcoholics can control their behavior just not how they drink alcohol.

                          And yes they are different, but only in how they react to alcohol.

                          Out side of that, they are are just run of the mill assholes like you and everyone else.

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                              It's ok, we all know we hit a nerve and Heeter is whiggin' out because it's brought him face to face with his own alcohol addiction. Past shows he throws the most stones when he does not have a leg to stand on.

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                                Originally posted by rwh11385 View Post
                                Telling someone who is seemingly unable to control there drinking that they have a disease which makes it impossible is somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy, correct?
                                First it is their.

                                Second it is not impossible, it is not a disease that can be dealt with using logic. Intelligence is one of the biggest stumbling blocks to the cure. The disease tells you you have no disease, it says you can control it.

                                Third, why so defensive? Does this remind you of someone?

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