Bush Impeachment Hearing

[Lair]

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When someone proves your viewpoint is from ignorance of the situation or out of context, you simply move onto the next, which is usually a random jab based on opinion or emotion.

And then if all your cards are played, you go back to an argument that was already shown to be ignorant and irrelevant, running in circles without any FACTS or NUMBERS... just more links to liberal drivel.

Keep trying to gloss over the fact that Bush has given us the largest federal deficit in history.

It's just 'liberal drivel'.

BTW, I wish I had a dollar for every time you rightie extremists have used the word "liberal".

I'd be richer than 50 cent.

[rwh11385]

When I said I was a staunch conservative, I meant that I sucked down anything the republicans told me without question - kinda like you.

Now I look at the issues from both sides.

I haven't disregarded any facts - especially not the lies that have been posted as facts.

You mean you didn't understand what was going on and now you just suck down on liberal bullshit instead of buying into republican doctrine?

What lies have been posted as facts?

I've been posting historical budgets numbers to show to you have no idea what's going on.

One lie you posted: Deficits can be blamed on Bush's tax cuts.
Fact: Bush's tax cuts have helped the budget with increase revenues.

Another lie: Bush's spending can be the focus of the blame for the deficit.
Fact: The majority of increases to federal spending between 07 and 08, as well as historically for the last 40 years has been mandatory spending, not discretionary.

[rwh11385]

Keep trying to gloss over the fact that Bush has given us the largest federal deficit in history.

1) much of it is not under bush's control
2) it's not the number that is relevant
3) you're a moron for not understanding 1 or 2



the bottom bars show the political majorities in power - top president, bottom two the congress. Look during the BushI years and Clinton years... and see who was in power of the Congress for each (orange = republican, blue = democrat).

[uofom3]

so then what do you believe in? if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything... which is what seems to be going on here.

Also... bobby isn't talking from a "right wing" standpoint... he's talking from the science of economics. it just happens to be that conservatives/republicans, in general, have a better grasp on economics. that's why they "are evil" and "have all the money".

[uofom3]

I'd be richer than 50 cent.

Did you really just say that? Are you trying to talk down to a younger demographic or something or do you actually listen to that shit to think that was a smart comment.

Also, you offer no solutions.

[uofom3]

1) much of it is not under bush's control
2) it's not the number that is relevant
3) you're a moron for not understanding 1 or 2



the bottom bars show the political majorities in power - top president, bottom two the congress. Look during the BushI years and Clinton years... and see who was in power of the Congress for each (orange = republican, blue = democrat).

brilliant.

[Lair]

One lie you posted: Deficits can be blamed on Bush's tax cuts.
Fact: Bush's tax cuts have helped the budget with increase revenues.

Another lie: Bush's spending can be the focus of the blame for the deficit.
Fact: The majority of increases to federal spending between 07 and 08, as well as historically for the last 40 years has been mandatory spending, not discretionary.

Horseshit.

Bush's tax cuts combined with his out-of-control spending are the prime contributors to the record deficit, and it started long before 2007.

[Lair]

1) much of it is not under bush's control

Really?

Who's controlling it?

[Lair]

Did you really just say that? Are you trying to talk down to a younger demographic or something or do you actually listen to that shit to think that was a smart comment.

Also, you offer no solutions.

Nice take on my comment. I saw a report on 50 cent's success and thought it was good comparison to getting money for nothing.

I have a solution - get some real conservatives in the White House - even if they're democrats.

[Lair]

so then what do you believe in? if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything... which is what seems to be going on here.

Also... bobby isn't talking from a "right wing" standpoint... he's talking from the science of economics. it just happens to be that conservatives/republicans, in general, have a better grasp on economics. that's why they "are evil" and "have all the money".

LMAO

In one post, the top ten richest congressmen are all democrats, and in the next, the republicans have all the money.

You rightie extremists definitely have a LOCK on hypocrisy.

[rwh11385]

Really?

Who's controlling it?

Like I have posted multiple times with facts and numbers to back it up, the primary concern of spending and the deficit is mandatory spending that are not under the control of Bush, unless he seriously wants to piss off the elderly.

Horseshit.

Bush's tax cuts combined with his out-of-control spending are the prime contributors to the record deficit, and it started long before 2007.

I like how you just call horseshit, although it is true... and once again you have no numbers, no facts, just stupid liberal propaganda. Your liberal mindset is based on ignorance and hatred, not understanding of the issues. Which I why I think liberals are usually worthless, they believe the crap they are told without looking at the numbers or understanding economics. Once again, I'll allude to minimum wage (they think will help rather than hurt unskilled people).

Tax cuts helps CONTRIBUTE to the REVENUES, you fool.

[Lair]

Like I have posted multiple times with facts and numbers to back it up, the primary concern of spending and the deficit is mandatory spending that are not under the control of Bush, unless he seriously wants to piss off the elderly.



I like how you just call horseshit, although it is true... and once again you have no numbers, no facts, just stupid liberal propaganda. Your liberal mindset is based on ignorance and hatred, not understanding of the issues. Which I why I think liberals are usually worthless, they believe the crap they are told without looking at the numbers or understanding economics. Once again, I'll allude to minimum wage (they think will help rather than hurt unskilled people).

Tax cuts helps CONTRIBUTE to the REVENUES, you fool.

And additional spending without additional income helps CONTRIBUTE to the DEFICIT, you fool.


Bush is the president. Why doesn't he have control?

[rwh11385]

And additional spending without additional income helps CONTRIBUTE to the DEFICIT, you fool.


Bush is the president. Why doesn't he have control?

Mandatory spending, especially medicare is the problem:

How Is Medicare Funded?:
Unlike Social Security, Medicare payroll taxes and premiums cover only 57% of current benefits.
The remaining 43% is financed from general revenues. [i.e. stealing from the budget and making deficits] Because of rising health care costs, general revenues will have to pay for 62% of Medicare costs by 2030.

So should have Bush just not worried about homeland security? Should he have magically cut mandatory spending in order to do so? Raising taxes wouldn't have increased revenues to fight a war. You have no understanding on tax revenue do you?

As much as unintelligent liberals would to blame Bush, he is not the only branch of government. He has tried to control medicare costs but he cannot wave a wand and change the nation, there's Congress to worry about.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020402490.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/washington/31budget.html?ref=us

Bush Seeks Surplus via Medicare Cuts

The two health programs account for nearly one-fourth of all federal spending, and their combined cost — $627 billion last year — is expected to double in a decade.

[gwb72tii]

And additional spending without additional income helps CONTRIBUTE to the DEFICIT, you fool.


Bush is the president. Why doesn't he have control?

there you go again, to quote Regean

tax collections rose during bush

get it?

further

no president has control

ever hear the phrase "the pres proposes, congress disposes"?

and here's a question

if spending is such an issue with you, who are you voting for? you've disqulified Obama obviously. so who?

[BimmerE30]

rightwing extremists? How do you know anyone other than yourself or your butt buddy are right or left wing? Whats worse than a right wing extremist..... left wing extremist? What exactly do you think you will be getting out of this rediculous discussion? Change 1 or 2 minds into something as crazy as yours? Come on.... get a life. Talk to someone who cares about what you have to say about all this BS coming from your cockholster. So you are telling me you live here to bitch about everything cause thats your freedom? You want to be a complainer all you life? I never have understood that point of view "I have the freedom to do whatever I want here, I hate this country" go screw yourself.