Has Putin lost his mind?

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  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34839

    #16
    Originally posted by Vincenze
    It's actually pretty common to bomb dictators who ban peaceful trucker freedom protests.
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    But a more valid comparison would be this scenario:
    French nationalists seize power in Canada. Now, everybody must speak French only, all English schools are closed. All businesses that deal with English and Spanish-speaking countries must close immediately. Ontario immediately joins the USA, other provinces are not as lucky.
    Your straw-man arguments are pathetic. Banning english schools in Canada? Have you ever actually been to Canada?
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    • Vincenze
      E30 Modder
      • Apr 2019
      • 956

      #17
      Originally posted by nando

      Your straw-man arguments are pathetic. Banning english schools in Canada? Have you ever actually been to Canada?
      Well, it happens in the Ukraine.
      Essentially, the Ukraine occupies Polish lands of Galicia with the capital Lviv. But Polish schools, Polish newspapers, Polish TV stations are banned.

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      • Vincenze
        E30 Modder
        • Apr 2019
        • 956

        #18
        Originally posted by nando

        Wait, what? That is some seriously fucked up revisionist history.
        Well, that's how the plant that produced the first BMW automobiles looks like now.


        It produced cars until the last days of Deutsche Demokratische Republik.

        It's the same with Ukrainian billionaires who destroyed all factories that communists built in the Ukraine.



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        • roguetoaster
          Biggus Tippus
          • Jan 2012
          • 7786

          #19
          Originally posted by Vincenze
          Garbage.
          So you're aware that Russia invaded Ukraine, and not some other version of reality, right?

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          • Vincenze
            E30 Modder
            • Apr 2019
            • 956

            #20
            Originally posted by roguetoaster

            So you're aware that Russia invaded Ukraine, and not some other version of reality, right?
            If I understand correctly, the Ukraine occupies Russian and Polish territories where 80% of people want to be with Russia or Poland.
            The Ukraine deliberately destroyed economies of these territories.

            Then, there are pro-American territories where Ukrainians expect to be rich by milking US and German taxpayers. It hasn't worked well, though.
            If Biden gives $2 trillion to Ukrainians like in Afghanistan, Russia will have no chance.

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            • Vincenze
              E30 Modder
              • Apr 2019
              • 956

              #21
              Originally posted by nando
              Our company was a victim to one of these attacks, during the middle of the COVID pandemic - there was 2 weeks where we were shut down entirely and all of our data was basically gone. It was probably one of the scariest moments of my life. I happened to be one of the people who noticed the ransom notes and looked into who the attacker was and what it meant.

              Thankfully, we worked together and were able to recover (and I don't know every detail - but I'm pretty sure we never paid those assholes a single cent). If you care about cybersecurity at all, you've probably read at least one article about the attackers in a news story somewhere during the last couple years.
              I guess somebody in your company opened a file from one of your buyers or sellers called "Invoice 1111" or "Bill 1111".
              Most likely, she had Windows, so she infected all computers in the company.

              Those kinds of viruses have been around for decades, but Bill Gates doesn't want to fix the problem.

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              • roguetoaster
                Biggus Tippus
                • Jan 2012
                • 7786

                #22
                Originally posted by Vincenze
                Nonsense.
                Your tinfoil is on too tight.

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                • Vincenze
                  E30 Modder
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 956

                  #23
                  There are tons of videos on YouTube.

                  Everything is clear, even if I don't know Ukrainian.
                  I see blown Russian tanks and killed soldiers.

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                  • roguetoaster
                    Biggus Tippus
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 7786

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Vincenze
                    There are tons of videos on YouTube.

                    Everything is clear, even if I don't know Ukrainian.
                    I see blown Russian tanks and killed soldiers.
                    That Russian in appearance T80 looks disabled, just not sure why that tanker took a hit from that direction. Also, if this was from today it would seem to corroborate the Russians scavenging/looting civilian gear for whatever reason.

                    It's the remnants of an engagement, it doesn't even begin to tell the whole story. However, we are seeing quite a few Russian KIAs being left behind after action, compared to relatively few Ukrainians, but this is probably output bias.

                    When the battle in Kyiv starts and Russians cannot discriminate between armed and unarmed civilians we will start to see far worse things than a few dead soldiers, provided the Ukrainian side of the story can get out with internet being effectively down.

                    It also seems that Russia had not fully committed as many of their forces as previously thought, and unless Ukraine takes forces from the western side of the country and is able to redistribute them, they are effectively out of first line replacements. Basically, despite serious setbacks Russian forces continue to advance, and only time will tell if the Russian people will tolerate the loss of life we are about to hear about.

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                    • Vincenze
                      E30 Modder
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 956

                      #25
                      It seems anybody can get a gun.
                      Most likely, armed people will come after owners of expensive villas and jewelry stores first.

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                      • nando
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 34839

                        #26
                        "see my youtube videos as proof"

                        Good grief.

                        At least we know who the Russian troll is.
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                        • Vincenze
                          E30 Modder
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 956

                          #27
                          Originally posted by nando
                          "see my youtube videos as proof"

                          Good grief.

                          At least we know who the Russian troll is.
                          Sometimes, I also watch local videobloggers from Afghanistan and North Korea.

                          You should try it too if you want real information.

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                          • roguetoaster
                            Biggus Tippus
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 7786

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Vincenze

                            Sometimes, I also watch local videobloggers from Afghanistan and North Korea.

                            You should try it too if you want real information.
                            Good thing no one ever uses video to be misleading or to present alternative facts.

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                            • Vincenze
                              E30 Modder
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 956

                              #29
                              I watch this Ukrainian channel.

                              It seems you can buy a brick house for the price of a rusted car.
                              People are poor there.

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                              • nando
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 34839

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Vincenze

                                Sometimes, I also watch local videobloggers from Afghanistan and North Korea.

                                You should try it too if you want real information.
                                so you also watch Taliban and North Korean propaganda? Got it.
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