Marijuana

[dr.gonzo]

I follow the Adam Carolla school of thought: I don't smoke. I don't care if other people smoke. Why should I burn calories thinking/ worrying about what others want to do thats not effecting me. If people are going to smoke being legal won't change a damn thing. Why are we still on this issue?

[Dozyproductions]

I follow the Adam Carolla school of thought: I don't smoke. I don't care if other people smoke. Why should I burn calories thinking/ worrying about what others want to do thats not effecting me. If people are going to smoke being legal won't change a damn thing. Why are we still on this issue?

This is still an issue because so many people think that weed does and will always effects them. I like that sort of mentality though because in the end...:wgaf:

[mrsleeve]

Your an idiot if you dont get the implications of my post . ITS ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY and the owner MAKING THE RULES NOT THE FUCKIGN GOVT. Its the owners RIGHT to decide what goes on in his establishment, Property rights trump those of the guests personal rights (to a point) You dont have to go in there that is a choice and you can get your happy ass up and leave.

Make sense yet,

Here, I cant carry a Weapon into a private businnes that is open to the public or into another persons home if they post a sign saying I cant or they tell me I cant. Why is this??? After all its my 2a rights to carry per my permit right????? Well the property owners RIGHTS TO CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS ON THEIR PROPERTY, trump my personal right to carry there. If I dont like that rule I can just leave or not patronize that place. Same thing applies to the Smoking on private property This would also apply to OUTSIDE on PRIVATE PROPERTY as well.

get it yet, these compleat bans are nothing but a govt grab at personal property rights

So you believe that someone's right to smoke supercedes everyone else's right to breath cleanly? Yes, I believe it is a right to breath cleanly and someone who sits down next to me and lights up is infringing on that right. If I see someone smoking, of course I choose to reside in another spot but why should I have to move because someone feels they are ENTITLED to smoke wherever they want. Ooh, there is that tricky word you were throwing around but you seemed to place it on the wrong party.

For the record, I am mostly referring to outside situations being that I am in Cali where you can't smoke in buildings. In the case of outside Cali, if an establishment allowed smoking inside I would just make the choice to not go there. Outside is a different story, if I am standing somewhere and someone walks up and starts blowing smoke all over me (yes, when smoking the smoke has to go somewhere and it usually hits someone), that is a violation of my rights and you are god damn right I am entitled to my rights.

[jeff_b]

Growing weed seems to be the only business the fucking Chinese can't outsource.

[pureaudio]

Your an idiot if you dont get the implications of my post . ITS ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY and the owner MAKING THE RULES NOT THE FUCKIGN GOVT. Its the owners RIGHT to decide what goes on in his establishment, Property rights trump those of the guests personal rights (to a point) You dont have to go in there that is a choice and you can get your happy ass up and leave.

Make sense yet,

Here I cant carry a Weapon into a private businnes that is open to the public or into another persons home if they post a sign saying I cant or they tell me I cant. Why is this??? After all its my 2a rights to carry per my permit right????? Well the property owners RIGHTS TO CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS ON THEIR PROPERTY, trump my personal right to carry there. If I dont like that rule I can just leave or not patronize that place. Same thing applies to the Smoking on private property This would also apply to OUTSIDE on PRIVATE PROPERTY as well.

get it yet, these compleat bans are nothing but a govt grab at personal property rights

Have you read anything I have typed at all? When the fuck did I say anything about smoking on private property? I pretty clearly stated that if an establishment explicitly allowed smoking inside, I would steer clear. It is their right to allow it, and it is my right to take my business somewhere else. What I have been saying, maybe read this a few times before you type again just in case these complicated sentences trip you up again, is that it is annoying as fuck when smokers invade your personal space with no regard for anyone but themselves. Here is an example in case that got you confused. I am sitting in front of the dmv waiting for someone on a bench. Someone comes up, sits down next to me and lights up. Guess who else now gets to enjoy that cig with them?

I hate any kind of government intervention but having that requires people to not be selfish assholes.

[s0urce]

Sounds like an asshole smoker excuse, mad because people around you don't fully support your nasty habit.

Here is a big fucking wake up call all you smokers; the only people who are not annoyed by your smoke inhabiting the air in the immediate area is other smokers. Everyone else hates it, it smells like shit and its annoying as fuck. Remember your first cig you stole from your unemployed dad's ripped up daisy dukes? Remember how it made you cough and hurt your throat? Yeah, when you haven't been chain smoking for most of your life inhaling smoke is not pleasant or fun. I don't care if it is outside or inside, it is annoying and yes everyone can smell it. This natural wonder called wind blows it all over the place, not just in a tiny little bubble that only you can smell. I don't give a fuck, I will tell people not to smoke around me, not ask. One of the few good things about living in California is that you assholes can't sit in front of an open door smoking away, pretending that you aren't effecting anyone else in the world.

It is definitely your right to be an idiot and choose to kill yourself but when your dumb decision effects how comfortable I am then you should lose that right in my opinion.

For the record, I see/smell people smoking pot all over public places and it is just as annoying.

Holy shit, relax. You should have a cigarette. Maybe it will mellow you out a bit.

PS: I enjoy the smell of cigarettes and don't smoke.

Have you read anything I have typed at all? When the fuck did I say anything about smoking on private property? I pretty clearly stated that if an establishment explicitly allowed smoking inside, I would steer clear. It is their right to allow it, and it is my right to take my business somewhere else. What I have been saying, maybe read this a few times before you type again just in case these complicated sentences trip you up again, is that it is annoying as fuck when smokers invade your personal space with no regard for anyone but themselves. Here is an example in case that got you confused. I am sitting in front of the dmv waiting for someone on a bench. Someone comes up, sits down next to me and lights up. Guess who else now gets to enjoy that cig with them?

I hate any kind of government intervention but having that requires people to not be selfish assholes.

Holy shit, relax...again. I remember one time when I was sitting on a bench outside the DMV myself. A guy came up next to me and had a boombox on his shoulder blasting tupac. I don't like tupac so I got up and found another bench.

[mrsleeve]

OK wow, before you try to be witty and sound smart you still have a key concept your not getting. Let me clarify it AGAIN

You advocate the CA smoking bans in restaurants, bars, shops stores, and other like establishments, do you not????????? In doing so you advocate taking the owners rights to regulate their property. Your statements are are contradictory you cant have it both ways.


Well you see those places are are PRIVATELY OWNED, Not PUBLIC property and the govt has no business sticking its nose in what goes on.


You sitting on a park bench in front of the DMV is 1 public property there for the govt can ban smoking there if it wishes and 2 its out side where there is plenty of ventilation. Yeah you can smell it, SO you want to ban smoking out side I take it then????

See the diff there yet, Private open to the public, regulated by the Owner Vs. PUBLICLY owned and govt regulated

Lastly some people are inconsiderate, yes its a fact of life learn to deal with it, thats life. Life is not fair, and you trying to impose your will on others is just as bad as the inconsiderate smoker thats right next to you.


Grow up

Have you read anything I have typed at all? When the fuck did I say anything about smoking on private property? I pretty clearly stated that if an establishment explicitly allowed smoking inside, I would steer clear. It is their right to allow it, and it is my right to take my business somewhere else. What I have been saying, maybe read this a few times before you type again just in case these complicated sentences trip you up again, is that it is annoying as fuck when smokers invade your personal space with no regard for anyone but themselves. Here is an example in case that got you confused. I am sitting in front of the dmv waiting for someone on a bench. Someone comes up, sits down next to me and lights up. Guess who else now gets to enjoy that cig with them?

I hate any kind of government intervention but having that requires people to not be selfish assholes.

[OrganicMechanic]

I have 12 HID lights in my shop that I want to convert the day the weed is freed.

I want to be a successful farmer and work on cars for fun.

it will happen in my lifetime soon I feel.

Would it not be a absolute coup if Obama cleared the prisons of all weed offenders and completely decriminalized it as far as the federal system goes. 2011 might be retirment year...

[pureaudio]

OK wow, before you try to be witty and sound smart you still have a key concept your not getting. Let me clarify it AGAIN

You advocate the CA smoking bans in restaurants, bars, shops stores, and other like establishments, do you not????????? In doing so you advocate taking the owners rights to regulate their property. Your statements are are contradictory you cant have it both ways.


Well you see those places are are PRIVATELY OWNED, Not PUBLIC property and the govt has no business sticking its nose in what goes on.


You sitting on a park bench in front of the DMV is 1 public property there for the govt can ban smoking there if it wishes and 2 its out side where there is plenty of ventilation. Yeah you can smell it, SO you want to ban smoking out side I take it then????

See the diff there yet, Private open to the public, regulated by the Owner Vs. PUBLICLY owned and govt regulated

Lastly some people are inconsiderate, yes its a fact of life learn to deal with it, thats life. Life is not fair, and you trying to impose your will on others is just as bad as the inconsiderate smoker thats right next to you.


Grow up

Please find and quote me where I said anything about wanting to ban smoking anywhere. My posts are unedited and I am pretty sure I never said that so correct me if I am wrong.

For your question about the CA law banning smoking indoors, it has been in effect since I was a kid so I had no control over that happening. If I had been old enough, I would not have supported government trying to control 1 more thing in our lives. I would not support it on the basis that if you give the government an inch, they will take a mile and start banning everything, eventually it would be something that would hit home for me. Do I enjoy the benefits of this law? Your damn right I do, but there isn't a damn thing that can be done to reverse it so I might as well.

In the case of privately owned but enclosed spaces that people have to use, yes I do agree with banning it, like airplanes.

My entire point is that I can't stand inconsiderate smokers. I didn't think my posts were that complicated.

[s0urce]

My entire point is that I can't stand inconsiderate smokers. I didn't think my posts were that complicated.

Then you should have just said that. They sure as fuck were more complicated than that single sentence. Another side note, I don't like inconsiderate people smokers and non.

[Jonny Cash]

Growing weed seems to be the only business the fucking Chinese can't outsource.

give them time.

btw. terrible thread. Will not read again.

[shiftbmw]

A guy came up next to me and had a boombox on his shoulder blasting tupac.

Sounds like one of those asshole smokers. He must have smoked tupac a day.


Ok I'm done here...

[s0urce]

sounds like one of those asshole smokers. He must have smoked tupac a day.


Ok i'm done here...

ahahahahahah

[Farbin Kaiber]

duh du duh. (Cymbal crash)

[mrsleeve]

LOL HOLY shit you make this way too easy. How old are you 16-17.

Please find and quote me where I said anything about wanting to ban smoking anywhere. My posts are unedited and I am pretty sure I never said that so correct me if I am wrong.

Ok if I must.

1 from the same post.

Do I enjoy the benefits of this law? Your damn right I do, but there isn't a damn thing that can be done to reverse it so I might as well.

Just how high is that horse you are sitting on anyway

One of the few good things about living in California is that you assholes can't sit in front of an open door smoking away, pretending that you aren't effecting anyone else in the world.

This one here says it all your true colors are shining through really good

but when your dumb decision effects how comfortable I am then you should lose that right in my opinion.

Should I continue there are more. All these seem to me that you want smoking banned all together to me :shrug:

For your question about the CA law banning smoking indoors, it has been in effect since I was a kid so I had no control over that happening. If I had been old enough, I would not have supported government trying to control 1 more thing in our lives. I would not support it on the basis that if you give the government an inch, they will take a mile and start banning everything, eventually it would be something that would hit home for me.

With the above mind set this is how you feel about things that might take something you enjoy, but in your mind smokers dont have the same rights huh. Cant have your cake and eat it too, When it comes to individual rights you cant pick and chose its all or nothing.

In the case of privately owned but enclosed spaces that people have to use, yes I do agree with banning it, like airplanes.

Not applicable in this argument. Commercial air lines are subject to licensing and regulation of the FAA <----- read F-troop. They can put a no smoking contingency on your license. All though its just good business to ban it on planes (see private corp using its right to ban)

Oh just so you know Trains quasigovernmental so there for subject to PUBLIC PROPERTY rules and govt regulation

Bus see the answer to planes, excluding private charter buses

My entire point is that I can't stand inconsiderate smokers. I didn't think my posts were that complicated.

UHHHHHHHH

why not say that then, no one would argue with that, I am in full agreement with that. I am not the biggest fan of any inconsiderate person, smoker or not.


Do you want to keep fucking with me???? or are you gonna give up????