Is it time to revolt?

[mar1t1me]

really Lincoln did not give 2 shits about slavery. It was a political move to garner support from the north. Even the history channel supports this (amazing I know). to think other wise really shows your highschool civics understanding of history again

I must disagree somewhat. In his writings he appeared quite passionate about his distaste for slavery:

Slavery is founded in the selfishness of man's nature -- opposition to it is in his love of justice. These principles are an eternal antagonism; and when brought into collision so fiercely, as slavery extension brings them, shocks, and throes, and convulsions must ceaselessly follow. Repeal the Missouri Compromise -- repeal all compromises -- repeal the declaration of independence -- repeal all past history, you still can not repeal human nature. It still will be the abundance of man's heart, that slavery extension is wrong; and out of the abundance of his heart, his mouth will continue to speak. -1854

And this:

I have always hated slavery, I think as much as any Abolitionist.

Just sayin'.....that sounds like at least two shits.

And just because there were other factors that launched the Civil War, it didn't keep Lincoln from blaming the whole thing on the issue of slavery at his 2nd term Inauguration:

One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the war.

[mrsleeve]

I must disagree somewhat. In his writings he appeared quite passionate about his distaste for slavery:

Slavery is founded in the selfishness of man's nature -- opposition to it is in his love of justice. These principles are an eternal antagonism; and when brought into collision so fiercely, as slavery extension brings them, shocks, and throes, and convulsions must ceaselessly follow. Repeal the Missouri Compromise -- repeal all compromises -- repeal the declaration of independence -- repeal all past history, you still can not repeal human nature. It still will be the abundance of man's heart, that slavery extension is wrong; and out of the abundance of his heart, his mouth will continue to speak. -1854

And this:

I have always hated slavery, I think as much as any Abolitionist.

Just sayin'.....that sounds like at least two shits.

And just because there were other factors that launched the Civil War, it didn't keep Lincoln from blaming the whole thing on the issue of slavery at his 2nd term Inauguration:

One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the war.

Like I told h0lmes I will consed he didnt like it, so maybe 2 shits was the wrong euphemism. But he was no abolitionist, if he was, he never would have been elected ever.

and the blame game for political gain, was no different then, than it is today. It was total political pandering to gain the industrial and military support of the north. Nothing more nothing less

[Restoman]

Lincoln only freed the slaves because he lost a bet.

[Restoman]

Something about if Andrew Jackson's dick could touch his asshole. I dunno, guess we had to be there.

[wildstoats]

Soooo should we revolt?

[gwb72tii]

is it illegal for states to detach themselves from the union?

no it isn't and some states such as texas have reserved the right to do so at any time
btw - texas is self-sustaining as a stand alone country

[Turf1600]

I hate to say it - but if texas seceded I'd just have to move. It's simply too religious and closed minded here.

[Wiglaf]

lol, so true. Arrogant too. Half the other states would have sanctions on them within 5 years. :p

[Naplm00]

Why revolt?

If you dont like it here then leave! Go to canada, they need more whiny bitches...lol

[mrsleeve]

Why revolt?

If you dont like it here then leave! Go to canada, they need more whiny bitches...lol

You do know canada is worse than it is here in just about every way right. from protected free speech, to crappy H.C., higher taxes, gun rights.

Oh wait your from Jersey, your right it is better for you then.

[Naplm00]

You do know canada is worse than it is here in just about every way right. from protected free speech, to crappy H.C., higher taxes, gun rights.

Oh wait your from Jersey, your right it is better for you then.

Then go to mexico...I know how you guys love being around "minororities"


And I live in NY now, so taxes are a bit lower

[mrsleeve]

And I live in NY now, so taxes are a bit lower

Now thats a statement about NJ

And mexico is too hot for me, I dont do heat so good.

[Naplm00]

everyone has to grow up sometime...

pump fists not gas!

[mrsleeve]

pump fists not gas!

1st time I was ever in jesery this was an issue for me. Nearly got thrown outta the state Was on 94 just a little north of I80. But the stupid little girl was trying to put gas in my diesel pick up, needless to say I fliped out and pumped my own fuel

[Turf1600]

Why revolt?

If you dont like it here then leave! Go to canada, they need more whiny bitches...lol

I wish more people thought like you. Your philosophy really encourages growth! When times got tough, our founding fathers should have just moved west. Plebians, I tell you!