Israel just doesn't get it...

[z31maniac]

was there weapons and ammo from Iran on that boat? no, i think there was just Israeli soldiers murdering 9 people. continue to justify it in your head all you want but they were wrong.

Continue to live in your idealized little bubble of the world.

[dvs909]

was there weapons and ammo from Iran on that boat? no, i think there was just Israeli soldiers murdering 9 people. continue to justify it in your head all you want but they were wrong.

hey mr. current events, Iran is sending more ships along with its "revolutionary guards" navy to attempt to run the blockade, or so they say.

Israeli soldiers didn't murder 9 people. they killed 9 criminals who were assaulting them. you'll notice the other FIVE ships in the aid flotilla didn't have any violence issues.

so look at the facts.
1. Israeli soldiers landed on all 6 ships.
2. Violence broke out on 1 ship.
3. If Israeli soldiers had it in to murder people, it would have been a bloodbath.
4. Since none of the other ships had any issues with violence, its logical that the Israeli soldiers were under orders not to cause harm, only to defend themselves.
5. Since (4) is logical, logic also follows that the Israeli soldiers who did open fire did so in self defense.
6. Self Defense is not murder.

Go get a fucking clue you mook.

[Massive Lee]

I am pretty sure "Armageddon" is named for Mount Megiddo, at least that is what I learned in Hebrew Lit.

Exact. The same location where 10 tribes were attacked by Assyrians. Two different names depending on language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon

The word Armageddon appears only once in the Greek New Testament.[6]Hebrew The word comes from har məgiddô (הר מגידו), meaning "Mountain of Megiddo or "place surrounded by hills". Megiddo was the location of many decisive battles in ancient times (including one in the 15th century BC and one in 609 BC). The town Megiddo is approximately 25 miles (40 km) west of the southern tip of the Sea of Galilee (or Lake Tiberias to the Romans) in the Kishon River area.


It's interesting to highlight that despite the intepretation of a peacefull Jewish "empire", the Northern Kingdom suffered the same internal conflicts as any empire, which led to its destruction by the Assyrians. Another Arabs-against-Arabs feud. Yes, Jews were Arabs.



The Kingdom of Israel had a troubled history almost from the beginning. Jeroboam I reigned for twenty-two years, and this actually was one of the longest reigns of a king of the Northern Kingdom. After he died, his son Nadab lasted only a year before a general officer named Baasha murdered him and usurped his crown. Baasha lasted for twenty-four years, but his son Elah suffered much the same fate as Nadab's: he was murdered, and this time his murderer fell to yet another conspirator within seven days. After that, the Kingdom of Israel fell into civil war, with the two sides equally divided, until within four years one side, led by Omri, prevailed. The House of Omri was one of the most troubled and wicked of the dynasties of the Northern Kingdom; its most famous member was Ahab, who with his consort Jezebel was best known for his contest of wills with the great prophet, Elijah.

[E30Kaiser]

It's interesting to highlight that despite the intepretation of a peacefull Jewish "empire", the Northern Kingdom suffered the same internal conflicts as any empire, which led to its destruction by the Assyrians. Another Arabs-against-Arabs feud. Yes, Jews were Arabs.

That is not correct at all, Jews are not Arabs. They are both Semitic peoples and both descendants of Abraham, however, I am fairly certain most Jews do not trace their roots back to Arabia. I don't even think Assyrian's are Arab either, if memory serves me right they were from the fertile crescent.

[Massive Lee]

That is not correct at all, Jews are not Arabs.

Jews came from the so-called Northern Kingdom region, surrounded by Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Palestine. These are Arab countries. So, yes, Jews were originally Arabs. BTW Arabs can be Jewish, Christian or Muslim. Being an Arab doesn't necessarely you are Muslim. Per exemple, Tunisia, in North Africa, used to have 1/3 Arab Jews, 1/3 Arab Christians, and 1/3 Arab Muslims.

And BTW, Iranians are NOT Arabs. They are Persians.

So, obviously, the original Jews were Arabs. But not those from Russia or Poland.

[ck_taft325is]

Are you Canadian, Lee? And by that I mean to ask, where are your ancestors from? Me? I'm from everywhere around the globe. But you know what I call myself? American.

Same should go for Isaelites/Jews.

More over, what exactly is the theme you're playing to with the history lesson? I might be missing the point due to being an ignorant American. How about you shed some light from that horse of yours so I can see clearly what you're getting at.

[E30Kaiser]

Jews came from the so-called Northern Kingdom region, surrounded by Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Palestine. These are Arab countries. So, yes, Jews were originally Arabs.

That is a bullshit argument, there are many ways to define Arab, and none of them include the Israelites. They don't speak Arab, they aren't from the Arabia, and they are not descended from one of the Arab tribes. So how are you defining them as Arab beyond the fact that they live next to Arabs?

[Massive Lee]

I'm from everywhere around the globe. But you know what I call myself? American.

Well, let's say you are indeed an American, with your 2800 years old ancestors from Poland. Would you go back to Poland and claim that land as yours?

[Massive Lee]

That is a bullshit argument, there are many ways to define Arab, and none of them include the Israelites. They don't speak Arab, they aren't from the Arabia, and they are not descended from one of the Arab tribes. So how are you defining them as Arab beyond the fact that they live next to Arabs?

Sooooo. Where did Jews come from 2800 years ago? It seems you need to get out of your fairy tales.

[sonnyqm3]

Well, let's say you are indeed an American, with your 2800 years old ancestors from Poland. Would you go back to Poland and claim that land as yours?

Real good point there lee.

By the way jews and muslims are first cousins since they are from the same family. They are the children Ismail and Isaac, ask any muslim or jew and they will agree to that.

The reason why the jews seperated from the arabs or didnt accept Muhammed pbuh. Because he was not from the same roots as the rest of the prophets. If you read/research, you will see he was the only non Yahud compare to the rest of the prophets.

So yes muslims and jews from that part of the world are blood related. If you see a real Israeli jew you will never know whether he is an Arab muslim or an Arab Jew.

[E30Kaiser]

Sooooo. Where did Jews come from 2800 years ago? It seems you need to get out of your fairy tales.

The Fertile Crescent.

[Aptyp]

Actually, Lee, there's more to suggest that people populated Palestine and crescent before Arabia... I am beginning to think that US public schools are somewhat ahead of Canadia.

[Massive Lee]

The Fertile Crescent.

If 10 or the 12 tirbes of Israel have been dessimated in one single place, Mount Meggedon, by Assyrians, they must have been a pretty small "ethny" not covering that whole Fertile Crescent. And, if Jews indeed came from the Fertile Crescent, why not claim Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Kuwait, Turkey, Armenia and Jordan too? ;-)

[Aptyp]

^working on it... but some politically correct, whiny, liberal bitches won't stop crying.




But you're still missing the point of that land legally being given to Israel after WWII. Nothing else matters.

[E30Kaiser]

If 10 or the 12 tirbes of Israel have been dessimated in one single place, Mount Meggedon, by Assyrians, they must have been a pretty small "ethny" not covering that whole Fertile Crescent. And, if Jews indeed came from the Fertile Crescent, why not claim Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Kuwait, Turkey, Armenia and Jordan too? ;-)

The first part is correct, they were a small group of people, moving from the Northern Tigris and looking for the land God told them was their's after being enslaved for so long, and they found it in Israel. Hence why they don't claim all those other places.