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  • Alkasquawlik
    R3V Elite
    • Feb 2008
    • 4557

    #31
    Originally posted by Victell
    No one should be in charge of killing peeps because no one should be killing prisoners. Simple. And you dont need execution to "keep us from harming each other". Imprisonment does that job. Its been shown time and time again that the death penalty is no more a deterent to crime than life in jail.

    Call it what it is, the death penalty is bloodlust retribution, nothing more. You can lie to me and say it aint, but you cant lie to yourself.
    Why do people on death row deserve to live?

    SC*AR

    Originally posted by JamesE30
    And with a car looking like yours I imagine the balance shall tip in the favor of insult, like a big fat fucking retarded fucking black girl on a see-saw, opposite... a dwarf.

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    • Victell
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Feb 2004
      • 1081

      #32
      Originally posted by Vedubin01
      Tell that to the people thats lost someone to a person like Gilles de Rais, a Richard Trenton Chase, or a Jeffrey Dahmer...
      I can understand the desire for revenge, but thats not what our state should be doing. And i'll tell any victim or victims family that. Dont get it twisted though, there are many many victims and victims families that THEMSELVES do not believe in the death penalty. Are you going to tell them that they are wrong?

      Originally posted by Vedubin01
      So you are saying you like sheriff Joe Arpaio and his methods of turning a profit with inmates?
      I dont know what joe does to turn a profit, but I see no reason why people we lock away, especially those we lock away forever, should not work for us until the day they die.

      Can somebody tell me why execution is a better idea for our country than having them work for us? Given all the costs of execution and imprisonment vs. free labor. This one question you pro-execution penalty folks need to answer. Lets have it.

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      • Victell
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Feb 2004
        • 1081

        #33
        Originally posted by Alkasquawlik
        Why do people on death row deserve to live?
        One reason is that our justice system isnt perfect and too many innocent people have been executed. But more importantly, what gives you the right to take their life? Also get busy answering my question above.

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        • blocke
          E30 Fanatic
          • Mar 2009
          • 1305

          #34
          I would rather have every prisoner in the US be working..than sitting in jail lifting weights and making wine in their toilet. Fix the roads, clean the beaches, pick up trash. Would be a lot more productive and worth taxpayers money.
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          • Erik
            R3V Elite
            • Oct 2005
            • 5370

            #35
            ^ I like this guy. I agree with 100% of what you said.
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            • 10Toes
              Me Father Was A Tree
              • Jan 2008
              • 61222

              #36
              Originally posted by e30e
              The firing squad does not know who has the bullet, the rest are blanks.
              5 Shooters
              4 Real bullets
              1 Blank

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              • E30Kaiser
                E30 Mastermind
                • Mar 2008
                • 1790

                #37
                Originally posted by nwvb bmw
                5 Shooters
                4 Real bullets
                1 Blank
                Yeah I would hope they don't shoot the guy once in the chest and call it done. As for the whole having blanks thing e30e was talking about, it doesn't really seem to fix the issue to me. If I am a member of the squad I would probably still have problems down the road regardless, just seeing multiple people die in front of me by shooting and me having a gun in my hands when it happens.
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                • Victell
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 1081

                  #38
                  Originally posted by blocke
                  I would rather have every prisoner in the US be working..than sitting in jail lifting weights and making wine in their toilet. Fix the roads, clean the beaches, pick up trash. Would be a lot more productive and worth taxpayers money.
                  Spot on. They should literally have a debt to society. No more gladiator academies and crime training camps.

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                  • mrsleeve
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 16385

                    #39
                    Originally posted by nwvb bmw
                    5 Shooters
                    4 Real bullets
                    1 Blank
                    NO

                    its 5 shooter
                    1 real round
                    4 blanks


                    it serves several purposes, no on knows who fired the fatal shot, and it forces you to aim true, because if you are that ass hat the just wants to wound him and make him suffer and you happen to have the real round there is no one else with another real bullet to cover for you.
                    Originally posted by Fusion
                    If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                    The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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                    • Kershaw
                      R3V OG
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 11822

                      #40
                      Originally posted by joshh
                      The expensive part isn't the actual death. It's all the legal bullshit the years before the execution.
                      yep. electricity is cheap, and lethal injection isnt that much either.

                      the legal cost to put someone to death is around 1.5 million.

                      the cost to incarcerate for life is 500,00.

                      and i completely believe inmates should be labor to support society. we shouldnt be giving them a free room and hot meals cause of their misdoings. they should be doing the dangerous mining, or radioactive clean up, oil spill clean up, etc. cleaning the highways is not enough. i do think the prison system should be paying back into the state system. they cost society something. they need to pay that back. i dont believe that sitting in a cell constitutes "paying back the debt to society."
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                      • mrsleeve
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 16385

                        #41
                        we should put all senior citizens in prisons and put all the criminals in nursing homes.


                        This way the seniors would have access to showers, hobbies, and walks, they'd receive unlimited free prescriptions, dental and medical treatment, wheel chairs etc. They'd receive money instead of paying it out. They would have constant video monitoring, so they could be helped instantly if they fell, or needed assistance. Bedding would be washed twice a week, and all clothing would be ironed and returned to them. A guard would check on them every 20 minutes, and bring their meals and snacks to their cell. They would have family visits in a suite built for that purpose. They would have access to a library, weight room, spiritual counseling, pool, and education. Simple clothing, shoes, slippers, P.J.'s and legal aid would be free, on request. There would be private, secure rooms for all, with an exercise outdoor yard with gardens. Each senior could have a personal computer and a TV, radio, and daily phone calls. There would be a board of directors, to hear complaints, and the guards would have a code of conduct, that would be strictly adhered to.

                        The "criminals" would get cold food, be left all alone, and unsupervised. Lights off at 8pm, and showers once a week. They would live in a tiny room, and pay $5000.00 per month for the privilege. They would have no hope of ever getting out. Justice for all!
                        Originally posted by Fusion
                        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                        The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                        William Pitt-

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                        • 325Projectz
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1956

                          #42
                          Originally posted by mrsleeve
                          NO

                          its 5 shooter
                          1 real round
                          4 blanks
                          i think you're wrong. everything i've found says 4 holes were in the body...

                          here one of the many links that say 4, picture included - http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/17...ervation-cell/
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                          • mrsleeve
                            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 16385

                            #43
                            Originally posted by 325Projectz
                            i think you're wrong. everything i've found says 4 holes were in the body...

                            here one of the many links that say 4, picture included - http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/17...ervation-cell/
                            I stand corrected. Every way I have read about how this has been done in semi modern times was in the way I described.

                            Guess Utah dose it the other way around
                            Originally posted by Fusion
                            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                            The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                            Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                            William Pitt-

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                            • LBJefferies
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1690

                              #44
                              I don't fundamentally disagree with killing violent criminals. However, our justice system is flawed and has put innocent men to death before. For this reason, the death penalty should be abolished. Keeping any number of violent criminals locked up for life is a far better option than executing one innocent man, no matter what the monetary cost is.

                              As for the prison system, violent criminals should be locked into concrete cells for 24 hours a day with absolutely no luxuries. Non-violent criminals should be put to work also without luxuries of any kind.
                              Last edited by LBJefferies; 06-18-2010, 04:28 PM.

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                              • 10Toes
                                Me Father Was A Tree
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 61222

                                #45
                                Originally posted by mrsleeve
                                NO

                                its 5 shooter
                                1 real round
                                4 blanks


                                it serves several purposes, no on knows who fired the fatal shot, and it forces you to aim true, because if you are that ass hat the just wants to wound him and make him suffer and you happen to have the real round there is no one else with another real bullet to cover for you.
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