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  • dvs909
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    thats not the point i was making. the point was the argument that because you were born one way its ok isnt a very good argument to something being right. im talking morally not legally.

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  • briansjacobs
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    Originally posted by dvs909
    the fill in the blank was supposed to be more along the lines of something that is generally unacceptable by people, but argued by some thats how they are.
    such as being a pedophile or a someone into beastility or a arsonist or someone who loves to kill. claiming your born like that so it must be ok and we must accept you isn't a valid argument.
    being gay is not illegal, pedophile,beastality,arson, murder are all things that are against the law. Your point is weak and invalid

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  • dvs909
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    Originally posted by Dozyproductions
    i'll play. Im a white male because i was born that way, so it must be ok, is not a valid argument.


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    the fill in the blank was supposed to be more along the lines of something that is generally unacceptable by people, but argued by some thats how they are.
    such as being a pedophile or a someone into beastility or a arsonist or someone who loves to kill. claiming your born like that so it must be ok and we must accept you isn't a valid argument.

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  • briansjacobs
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    Originally posted by dvs909
    i believe marriage is a institution of the church, and a civil union is one of the government. im okay wit extending marital rights to people with civil unions. and yes i agree that it should be called a civil union instead of a marriage.

    once again i disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, i think its wrong, however legally i don't think there is any reason why they can't have a civil union. i don't think a ordained pastor should be marrying two gays or lesbians, its against christian ethics.

    inb4 lee goes on some rant about catholicism.
    I am ok with this, no one is asking you to agree with something against your religion, and you are not trying to oppress anyone of the same rights you and I granted. While me may disagree on the ethics and morals of same sex marriage it is irrelavant if the persons affected get the rights, after all a rose by any other name still smells the same so who cares call it a civil union or a whatever.

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  • BraveUlysses
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    Originally posted by z31maniac
    joshh is just mad he wasn't accepted into Cosmetology school.
    oh that must be why he went to the University of Trollin'.

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  • dvs909
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    Originally posted by briansjacobs
    in your opinon what is the difference between marriage and a civil union? would you be ok with extending marital rights to people with civil unions/ should people with civil unions have the same rights as married individuals, but just be called a civil union instead of a marriage?
    i believe marriage is a institution of the church, and a civil union is one of the government. im okay wit extending marital rights to people with civil unions. and yes i agree that it should be called a civil union instead of a marriage.

    once again i disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, i think its wrong, however legally i don't think there is any reason why they can't have a civil union. i don't think a ordained pastor should be marrying two gays or lesbians, its against christian ethics.

    inb4 lee goes on some rant about catholicism.

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  • Dozyproductions
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    Originally posted by dvs909
    thats just the thing however. if we legalize gay marriage where does it stop? Marriage between a man and a animal? they were born to love animals dont discriminate against them because of that. how bout pedophiles? they were born that way, don't discriminate against them!

    im disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, but im ok with civil unions for gays, not marriages.

    the problem is when you use the argument that they were born that way, you are insinuating that because someone was born with tendencies its ok.
    in court this is called precedent. Im a (fill in the blank) because i was born that way, so it must be ok, is not a valid argument.
    i'll play. Im a white male because i was born that way, so it must be ok, is not a valid argument.



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  • briansjacobs
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    Originally posted by jonny cash
    totally unnatural. We dont need anymore bronzits running around now do we?
    lmao.

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  • briansjacobs
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    Originally posted by dvs909

    im disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, but im ok with civil unions for gays, not marriages.
    in your opinon what is the difference between marriage and a civil union? would you be ok with extending marital rights to people with civil unions/ should people with civil unions have the same rights as married individuals, but just be called a civil union instead of a marriage?

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  • Jonny Cash
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    Originally posted by briansjacobs
    if you legalize same sex marriage the next thing you know people will marry their E30's. It would be a real shame if a black man married a white E30. that is just unnatural.


    totally unnatural. We dont need anymore bronzits running around now do we?

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  • dvs909
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    Originally posted by Jonny Cash
    Legalize gay marriage, next thing you know everyone will claim gay, marry their in-laws, just to become a US citizen! Hey while your at it, legalize polygamy too. We'll all just fucking marry eachother.

    lol jk..
    thats just the thing however. if we legalize gay marriage where does it stop? Marriage between a man and a animal? they were born to love animals dont discriminate against them because of that. how bout pedophiles? they were born that way, don't discriminate against them!

    im disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, but im ok with civil unions for gays, not marriages.

    the problem is when you use the argument that they were born that way, you are insinuating that because someone was born with tendencies its ok.
    in court this is called precedent. Im a (fill in the blank) because i was born that way, so it must be ok, is not a valid argument.

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  • briansjacobs
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    Originally posted by Jonny Cash
    Legalize gay marriage, next thing you know everyone will claim gay, marry their in-laws, just to become a US citizen! Hey while your at it, legalize polygamy too. We'll all just fucking marry eachother.

    lol jk..
    if you legalize same sex marriage the next thing you know people will marry their E30's. It would be a real shame if a black man married a white E30. that is just unnatural.

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  • Jonny Cash
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    Originally posted by briansjacobs
    you are correct, they have the same exact rights as the rest of us, with the exception of social security survivor benefits, spousal benefits, legal benefits such as the right to not testify against one's spouse, and about 1100 legal rights that you and I have that have been granted to us based on marital rights satatus that civil union status does not cover.

    so what is your specific objection with gay marriage, you do realize that if you are tired of hearing about it the easiest way to make it go away is to legalize it.

    Legalize gay marriage, next thing you know everyone will claim gay, marry their in-laws, just to become a US citizen! Hey while your at it, legalize polygamy too. We'll all just fucking marry eachother.

    lol jk..

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  • ACMF74
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    Remember...God and Jesus loves you... joshh, Lee and all the non-believers.

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  • z31maniac
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    joshh is just mad he wasn't accepted into Cosmetology school.

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