Atheist acting up again

[LBJefferies]

Not so fast...how about letting a mom and daughter marry or son and father? How far should the slippery slope go before we call off the immorality?

If that's really the case then why do Gays care?
Marriage was and has always been a man and a woman...period.
Maybe you need to understand why. See a man and a woman can pro-create. That means they can bring a child into this world. Marriage does in many cases bind two people together and helps the family unit.
Gays aren't fit to be parents generally. Just like a single parent in many cases has a serious problem raising a child alone. Because being Gay is immoral and unproductive to the human race. And it's unnatural.
A child needs a Mom (female) and Dad (male). Responsible ones that have a sense of morrality unlike Gays.
I can only imagine what some of the kids would be like being raised by two people of the same sex. Let alone most gays are very feminine both on the male and female side.

So no it's not semantics...

All this crap about marrying a family member is completely irrelevant to the discussion here. Family members are already granted most of the same rights that marriage gives to people. Marriage simply grants those rights to people whom are not related according to the law. Perhaps you should completely remove the sexual element from this whole thing and realize that it's just some tax breaks and visitation privileges that were talking about, nothing more.

You think gays aren't fit to be parents? I think that gay couples should be allowed to adopt. There are many children all over the world who would be much better off with gay parents than in a crowded orphanage or starving on the streets of a third world country. Also, science has shown that homosexuality is something that people are born with, not a choice. As for it being immoral and unproductive to society, I don't see how you can argue that it is any different than using birth control or staying celibate or just choosing to be single and/or not have kids. Were not talking about rapists and murderers here, we are talking about normal people who simply prefer to be intimate with their own sex. If you disagree with this then fine, but it is never your place to tell someone that they cannot do this.

[TwoJ's]

I'm surprised that was spelled correctly.

Surprised that what was spelled correctly? Indivisible? Are you insinuating that atheists are generally lack intelligence?

[Inline Sex]

Also, science has shown that homosexuality is something that people are born with, not a choice.

[briansjacobs]

Not so fast...how about letting a mom and daughter marry or son and father? How far should the slippery slope go before we call off the immorality?

If that's really the case then why do Gays care?
Marriage was and has always been a man and a woman...period.
Maybe you need to understand why. See a man and a woman can pro-create. That means they can bring a child into this world. Marriage does in many cases bind two people together and helps the family unit.
Gays aren't fit to be parents generally. Just like a single parent in many cases has a serious problem raising a child alone. Because being Gay is immoral and unproductive to the human race. And it's unnatural.
A child needs a Mom (female) and Dad (male). Responsible ones that have a sense of morrality unlike Gays.
I can only imagine what some of the kids would be like being raised by two people of the same sex. Let alone most gays are very feminine both on the male and female side.

So no it's not semantics...

not fit to be parents? It is obvious to me that you have not spent time with gay couples. I would say that the gay couples I know are better parents than some straight people that I know. Furthermore just being straight does not make someone fit to be a parent nor does it make them moral, me for example as an atheist that support gay marraige and is pro choice I will assume that you would think of me as immorral. Ted Bundy, Charles Manson and other serial killers in your world would all be ok by you to be parents, but say Ellen Degeneres, no. Your arguement not only has no base, there is no research to back it up.

Good parenting is not influenced by sexual orientation. Rather, it is influenced most profoundly by a parent's ability to create a loving and nurturing home -- an ability that does not depend on whether a parent is gay or straight. The American Psychological Association, in a recent report reviewing the research, observed that "not a single study has found children of gay or lesbian parents to be disadvantaged in any significant respect relative to children of heterosexual parents," and concluded that "home environments provided by gay and lesbian parents are as likely as those provided by heterosexual parents to support and enable children's psychosocial growth." That is why the Child Welfare League of America, the nation's oldest children's advocacy organization, and the North American Council on Adoptable Children say that gays and lesbians seeking to adopt should be evaluated just like other adoptive applicants

[newman]

Surprised that what was spelled correctly? Indivisible? Are you insinuating that atheists are generally lack intelligence?

I was actually referring to "under god"

[z31maniac]

joshh is just mad he wasn't accepted into Cosmetology school.

[ACMF74]

Remember...God and Jesus loves you... joshh, Lee and all the non-believers.

[Jonny Cash]

you are correct, they have the same exact rights as the rest of us, with the exception of social security survivor benefits, spousal benefits, legal benefits such as the right to not testify against one's spouse, and about 1100 legal rights that you and I have that have been granted to us based on marital rights satatus that civil union status does not cover.

so what is your specific objection with gay marriage, you do realize that if you are tired of hearing about it the easiest way to make it go away is to legalize it.

Legalize gay marriage, next thing you know everyone will claim gay, marry their in-laws, just to become a US citizen! Hey while your at it, legalize polygamy too. We'll all just fucking marry eachother.

lol jk..

[briansjacobs]

Legalize gay marriage, next thing you know everyone will claim gay, marry their in-laws, just to become a US citizen! Hey while your at it, legalize polygamy too. We'll all just fucking marry eachother.

lol jk..

if you legalize same sex marriage the next thing you know people will marry their E30's. It would be a real shame if a black man married a white E30. that is just unnatural.

[dvs909]

Legalize gay marriage, next thing you know everyone will claim gay, marry their in-laws, just to become a US citizen! Hey while your at it, legalize polygamy too. We'll all just fucking marry eachother.

lol jk..

thats just the thing however. if we legalize gay marriage where does it stop? Marriage between a man and a animal? they were born to love animals dont discriminate against them because of that. how bout pedophiles? they were born that way, don't discriminate against them!

im disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, but im ok with civil unions for gays, not marriages.

the problem is when you use the argument that they were born that way, you are insinuating that because someone was born with tendencies its ok.
in court this is called precedent. Im a (fill in the blank) because i was born that way, so it must be ok, is not a valid argument.

[Jonny Cash]

if you legalize same sex marriage the next thing you know people will marry their E30's. It would be a real shame if a black man married a white E30. that is just unnatural.

totally unnatural. We dont need anymore bronzits running around now do we?

[briansjacobs]

im disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, but im ok with civil unions for gays, not marriages.

in your opinon what is the difference between marriage and a civil union? would you be ok with extending marital rights to people with civil unions/ should people with civil unions have the same rights as married individuals, but just be called a civil union instead of a marriage?

[briansjacobs]

totally unnatural. We dont need anymore bronzits running around now do we?

lmao.

[Dozyproductions]

thats just the thing however. if we legalize gay marriage where does it stop? Marriage between a man and a animal? they were born to love animals dont discriminate against them because of that. how bout pedophiles? they were born that way, don't discriminate against them!

im disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, but im ok with civil unions for gays, not marriages.

the problem is when you use the argument that they were born that way, you are insinuating that because someone was born with tendencies its ok.
in court this is called precedent. Im a (fill in the blank) because i was born that way, so it must be ok, is not a valid argument.

i'll play. Im a white male because i was born that way, so it must be ok, is not a valid argument.



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[dvs909]

in your opinon what is the difference between marriage and a civil union? would you be ok with extending marital rights to people with civil unions/ should people with civil unions have the same rights as married individuals, but just be called a civil union instead of a marriage?

i believe marriage is a institution of the church, and a civil union is one of the government. im okay wit extending marital rights to people with civil unions. and yes i agree that it should be called a civil union instead of a marriage.

once again i disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, i think its wrong, however legally i don't think there is any reason why they can't have a civil union. i don't think a ordained pastor should be marrying two gays or lesbians, its against christian ethics.

inb4 lee goes on some rant about catholicism.