Ron Paul and Barney Frank to introduce legislation to legalize Marijuana.....

[Marcos]

Hrmph

Things that come to mind, the court system makes so much money keeping people in drug court limbo. Do you think the Law Enforcement Complex/For-Profit Prison System is willing to give up that cash cow without sending their lobbyists in to help defeat this?

This is absolutely true.

As for an "entrance drug", there is no conclusive evidence of this either way and it's a moot point. I personally feel that whether you go on to harder drugs or not has a lot more to do with your personality and circumstances.

The big story here is about choice, freedom of choice and a broken system that has grown to profit from humanities shortcomings. The puritanical idea that society at large should dictate what an individual chooses for his path is absurd and not at all democratic.

Prohibition did not work and it continues to fail. The cost of the war on drugs is immeasurable both in an economic and real sense.

The only gateway drug I see here is the Gateway To Absolute Corruption of the sovereignty of this nation through punitive and unrealistic laws.

Let democracy rule, not the Oligarchical hierarchy that has taken hold of this country.

I don't agree with Obama very much but at least he isn't related to the last couple presidents...

Marcos

[Farbin Kaiber]

I don't agree with Obama very much but at least he isn't related to the last couple presidents...

Marcos

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/item_KJXdKMwZqBgHPdXXdGWnEP;jsessionid=45AE0A5EBE4DC2BA3FF9A2003BEF5ED3

[Bimmerista]

Good point. And there's always that pesky fact that MJ is an entrance drug. Which even I have a problem with....but if it's legalized, I wonder if it would stop being an entrance drug. At least not nearly as much.

I agree that MJ is an entrance drug. But its no more of an entrance drug than cigarettes. Look at how many kids in their early teens already smoking cigarettes.

[CorvallisBMW]

I agree that MJ is an entrance drug. But its no more of an entrance drug than cigarettes. Look at how many kids in their early teens already smoking cigarettes.

Exactly. Most of the kids I knew in HS who smoked, pretty soon started drinking. Some of them moved on to marijuana. Never saw any go to harder drugs, though I'm sure it happened.

Bottom line is anything can be a 'gateway drug'. Hell exercise could be considered one, endorphin rush's are powerful stuff. There are plenty of athletes, especially runners, who chase them.

[slammin.e28]

The money saved by legalizing it would outweigh the money spent fighting it.

Problem with taxing it is the same with moonshine, it's so ingrained in the underground, there'd be no way to. Uncle Sam can't get his cut, so Uncle Sam makes it illegal.

I am for legalization, although I don't, and have never, smoked it, primarily because of the money it would save our government when they no longer had to fight a losing war. Quit trying to control every pittly little and let the people be. There are more important things to worry about than the guy in Appalachia running his white lightning/marijuana farm. (The reason I compare moonshine to MJ is many 'shiners are turning to MJ as it is more profitable than 'shine.)

[Marcos]

Yeesh

Well if you look that deep into the roots of the family tree, you and I are probably related Farbin...

Kinda funny though

[Kershaw]

lol about distant cousins. heh. i wonder who on this board im related to. any germans from bavaria or greeks from crete?

if mj is a gateway drug, then techno is a gateway drug too. cause once you feel the high of the bass and the endorphins/adrenaline from dancing you get addicted. then when it starts fading you and go for the harder drugs... LIKE ECSTASY! what a stupid argument.

it's like saying getting your drivers license is a gateway drug to illegal street racing.

[joshh]

I agree that MJ is an entrance drug. But its no more of an entrance drug than cigarettes. Look at how many kids in their early teens already smoking cigarettes.

The difference is Mj shows kids how you contact people in the illegal drug market. It introduces kids to the illicit side of drugs. Which can open them up to more people who are selling more than just MJ.
This doesn't happen with Alcohol or cigarettes as much because they are so widely available.

[z31maniac]

Riiiiiiiiiiggghhhhht.

[joshh]

Riiiiiiiiiiggghhhhht.

Interesting how you throw around the troll accusation yet make trolling posts.

[Dozyproductions]

The difference is Mj shows kids how you contact people in the illegal drug market. It introduces kids to the illicit side of drugs. Which can open them up to more people who are selling more than just MJ.
This doesn't happen with Alcohol or cigarettes as much because they are so widely available.

This isn't MJ's doing. This is kids doing this through necessity because of certain things, they are going to do anyways, are illegal. Edit: It's wrong to make the argument that some how MJ dictates how people start living their drug ridden lives.

[CorvallisBMW]

The difference is Mj shows kids how you contact people in the illegal drug market. It introduces kids to the illicit side of drugs. Which can open them up to more people who are selling more than just MJ.
This doesn't happen with Alcohol or cigarettes as much because they are so widely available.

All the more reason to legalize it so that it isn't part of an illegal drug market. Or did that not occur to you...

Also, alcohol is illegal for all "kids", they must obtain it through some kind of illegal activity. So why don't you consider it the same kind of 'gateway drug' as marijuana?

[Bimmerista]

This doesn't happen with Alcohol or cigarettes as much because they are so widely available.

Yes....because any teen can walk into a gas station, buy a pack of smokes & a case of Shiner & NOT get ID'd.

[z31maniac]

Interesting how you throw around the troll accusation yet make trolling posts.

Really? The best you could come up with?

I'd bet even the people that don't agree with my viewpoint in this forum, wouldn't agree that I'm a troll.

I guess Scientology has made you accustomed to Straw man and ad hominem arguments.

As long as it lets you sleep at night, I couldn't give a fuck.

[slammin.e28]

E30s were the gateways to e36s. Thus, e30s should be illegal.