American Atheists Sue Over World Trade Center Cross

[Kershaw]

i was going to say... this all comes down to if its private property or government property.

but then i realized... whose footing the bill? the government? if that's the case... im not paying for a cross to be erected. that doesnt represent me or my faith.

my family went to ground zero a few weeks after to pay our condolences. had nothing to do with christianity.

[JasonCeebz]

I'm apalled that you would shit in the mouth of everyone that has family who was killed or injured at 9/11 by mourning the death, or even looking down your self righteous, high horsed nose at them for celebrating or even feeling good about the fact that a terrorist, a hateful, filled with the same self righteous bullshit piss and vinegar you yourself seem to exhibit, was shot and killed for his crimes against innocent people who never looked twice at him.

Evidence?

I have seen absolutely zero evidence of Bin Laden, or his homeys having responsibility for 9-11; just a bunch of right wing media propaganda.

That goes for his supposed killing in Pakistan too.

[bimmerpirate]

OMG TWO PIECES OF STEEL WERE BONDED IN A CROSS SHAPE. LETS MAKE IT A SYMBOL!!!!

sounds fucking retarded to me. I wonder how many cross shaped pieces of steel were in there considering the building was square and had many floors.

A better memorial would be a wall with all the names of people who were killed in the attack along with a wall of names of all the innocents that were killed in the "counterattack"

I'm pretty sure that those who died who werent god-fearing that died in the attack would be offended that a scrap metal cross was put over where they died so its nice that someone is speaking up on their behalf.

[NKRoberts]

Evidence?

I have seen absolutely zero evidence of Bin Laden, or his homeys having responsibility for 9-11; just a bunch of right wing media propaganda.

That goes for his supposed killing in Pakistan too.

Ring wing media propaganda? You are losing your touch.

How long do you think before the real JasonC bans you sample UF?

[JasonCeebz]

Ring wing media propaganda? You are losing your touch.

How long do you think before the real JasonC bans you sample UF?

It's fact. There is absolutely no evidence to prove he, or they did it. That doesn't mean they didn't but it isn't right to make accusations based off Fox News reports.

I'll give it 20-30 minutes.

[markseven]

It's fact. There is absolutely no evidence to prove he, or they did it. That doesn't mean they didn't but it isn't right to make accusations based off Fox News reports.

I'll give it 20-30 minutes.

Obama went after him. He must take Fox news very seriously.

[JasonCeebz]

Obama went after him. He must take Fox news very seriously.

Obama knew his popularity was falling off as the only reason he was elected was because everyone thought there would be "change". After people realized there has been none, he made up a story to gain some popularity.

Where is the evidence the poor Pakistani man they killed was actually Bin Laden? Ohh, that's right. There is none.

[mrsleeve]

^

going for a 4th ban in 24 hours ehhhh

Someone IP ban this fucker

[ak-]

OT:

I haven't been keeping up, but were the soldiers that infiltrated Osama's humble abode and executed him identities ever released?

And wasn't it like a month ago where a helicopter carrying all or most of the special op dudes who terminated Osama got shot down, killing everybody?

If confirmed, it seems odd to me since evidence was never released that they actually went gun-Ho and killed the guy.

Somebody fill me in

[herbivor]

As a structural engineer I can say that in almost every building, beams connect to columns at right angles, forming a cross shape. It's not divine, it's engineering. What would be divine would be if no cross shapes were found in the rubble. Why anyone would want a symbol of an ancient form of torture to memorialize a modern terrorist attack is beyond logic. I'm glad the atheists are suing. Someone should stand up against the absurdity.

[mar1t1me]

^

going for a 4th ban in 24 hours ehhhh

Someone IP ban this fucker

So the guy asks questions you can't answer, so your answer is to silence him?

Bin Laden was never charged with anything regarding 9/11......that's a fact. Look at that FBI site. Not ONE FUCKING WORD about 9/11.

I for one, would like to know how he became public enemy #1, apparently without any direct evidence he was in on the plot.

And have you seen any direct evidence that Bin Laden is dead? I have not. All I know is someone was killed, his body quickly dumped in the ocean, and ALL the men who were actually there are now conveniently unable to speak about it. And where is the Al Qaeda outrage at having their "leader" offed? I haven't seen any. Have you?

The whole thing stinks.

[herbivor]

^ Uh oh. Sounds like a conspiracy. Everyone, get your tinfoil caps.

[Kershaw]

And where is the Al Qaeda outrage at having their "leader" offed? I haven't seen any. Have you?

no i havent. i cant say i talk to al qaeda operatives on a daily basis though. you?

[NKRoberts]

no i havent. i cant say i talk to al qaeda operatives on a daily basis though. you?

YOU DON'T!?!?! you need to get out more ;)

[frankenbeemer]

Osama did claim responsibility in 2004 (after initially denying it in 2001).

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html

The FBI says he did it. The evidence linking Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden to the attacks of September 11 is clear and irrefutable. February 6, 2002

Statement for the Record of

Dale L. Watson
Executive Assistant Director
Counterterrorism and Counterintelligence
Federal Bureau of Investigation

Would it be enough to convict him? I don't know. I remain disappointed that he was not put on trial. The circumstances of his death seem more like vigilantism than justice. YMMV.