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  • evandael
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    • Oct 2009
    • 2881

    #1621
    Originally posted by gwb72tii
    no it's responsible for crazy weather, even though thee has been a reduction in extreme weather events worldwide

    on what data do you base this assertation?

    oh right. data = science, which you blatantly ignore. perhaps our holiness FSM told you that everything is okay?

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    • BraveUlysses
      No R3VLimiter
      • Jun 2007
      • 3781

      #1622

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      • rwh11385
        lance_entities
        • Oct 2003
        • 18403

        #1623
        Originally posted by rwh11385
        Anyway, to respond the the argument that you leaned on several times...

        Although apparently you forgot that the "warming had stopped" rebuttal had been mentioned before.


        Just like the cherry picking you usually do, using one high data point to focus comparison against while ignoring the large overall trend is misleading. 1998 made it possible to average out a flat line, even if:


        "We know the planet is absorbing more energy than it is emitting," said GISS Director James E. Hansen. "So we are continuing to see a trend toward higher temperatures. Even with the cooling effects of a strong La Niña influence and low solar activity for the past several years, 2011 was one of the 10 warmest years on record."

        The difference between 2011 and the warmest year in the GISS record (2010) is 0.22 degrees F (0.12 C). This underscores the emphasis scientists put on the long-term trend of global temperature rise. Because of the large natural variability of climate, scientists do not expect temperatures to rise consistently year after year. However, they do expect a continuing temperature rise over decades.

        The first 11 years of the 21st century experienced notably higher temperatures compared to the middle and late 20th century, Hansen said. The only year from the 20th century in the top 10 warmest years on record is 1998.



        And guess wait a couple of years and see if this prediction pans out...

        Hansen said he expects record-breaking global average temperature in the next two to three years because solar activity is on the upswing and the next El Niño will increase tropical Pacific temperatures. The warmest years on record were 2005 and 2010, in a virtual tie.

        "It's always dangerous to make predictions about El Niño, but it's safe to say we'll see one in the next three years," Hansen said. "It won't take a very strong El Niño to push temperatures above 2010."
        Repeating flawed arguments makes quoting past rebuttals easy. Maybe try finding an original thought.

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        • rwh11385
          lance_entities
          • Oct 2003
          • 18403

          #1624
          Originally posted by herbivor
          The reason why scientists cannot accurately predict the exact temperature rise is because our actions largely determine the amount of rise there will be. And there are also still some feedback loops that aren't completely understood and therefore their effect cannot be accurately calculated. But as more scientific data comes in, and computer modeling becomes more sophisticated, the projections become more accurate. Couple that with some sophisticated statistical analysis from some mathematicians and you can narrow it down even further to a more accurate range. These aren't the computer models from the 1980's or 90's. They're getting pretty damn accurate and in fact even the older ones have correctly predicted the sea level rise almost exactly in most places.
          It's like saying you're upset that Hurricane Katrina was predicted to be a category 4 or 5 hurricane when it hit New Orleans and it was only a category 3 by the time it made landfall. So I guess those darn weather forecasters were wrong and we shouldn't plan for any hurricanes because it costs money to prepare. Genius.
          Attacking hurricane predictions and modeling really points out how clueless he is, and the vast improvement of storm science should demonstrate how much climate science has improved as well. Basing his position on the 90s Denver classroom or Captain Planet emphasizes how little in touch he is with the subject he is speaking ill of.

          But to him, anyone who seeks efficiency or a better environment must be Al Gore. Even Elon Musk? Stupid hippie with solar panels and electric cars I guess??

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          • Fusion
            No R3VLimiter
            • Nov 2009
            • 3658

            #1625
            Your "conclusion" is laughable a proves how much ignorance and little thought you put into what you write.

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            • rwh11385
              lance_entities
              • Oct 2003
              • 18403

              #1626
              Originally posted by Fusion
              Your "conclusion" is laughable a proves how much ignorance and little thought you put into what you write.
              Huh?

              Maybe you missed the lesson in grade school where you should mention what you are talking about. Do you even know?

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              • Fusion
                No R3VLimiter
                • Nov 2009
                • 3658

                #1627
                I course I do. Your blindness proves my point.

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                • rwh11385
                  lance_entities
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 18403

                  #1628
                  Originally posted by Fusion
                  I course I do. Your blindness proves my point.
                  Are you still in grade school? You put no thought into what you write and cannot form a coherent statement. You make ridiculous assertions and then abandon them.


                  Was my conclusion wrong that you were ignorant of the improvement in hurricane modeling?

                  Did you just randomly mention earthquakes for no reason or did you think weather caused them? Some in the world think that boobs and risqué dressed women cause them.

                  Do you base your position on anything besides anger about what your elementary school teacher said? If not, explain what the hell you have to support your science is evil and for liars opinion.

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                  • Fusion
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3658

                    #1629
                    You still haven't been able to logically process the fallacies in your own conclusive thoughts?

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                    • rwh11385
                      lance_entities
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 18403

                      #1630
                      Originally posted by Fusion
                      You still haven't been able to logically process the fallacies in your own conclusive thoughts?
                      Trolls be trollin'

                      Let us know when you'd like to have an actual meaningful discussion.

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                      • Fusion
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 3658

                        #1631
                        Do you find it commonplace to use the "troll argument" when you cannot understand your own illogical ideas and opinions without them being explained to you by the party you accuse?

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                        • rwh11385
                          lance_entities
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 18403

                          #1632
                          Originally posted by Fusion
                          Do you find it commonplace to use the "troll argument" when you cannot understand your own illogical ideas and opinions without them being explained to you by the party you accuse?
                          No, but I do find when trolls get stuck they tend to make pointless blabbering posts to avoid the discussion at hand. Instead of talking about their abandoned points, they distract.

                          Second sentence originally said "i find it common place that you are a worthless troll"
                          Last edited by rwh11385; 01-29-2013, 09:27 AM.

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                          • Fusion
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 3658

                            #1633
                            Thank you.

                            Edit: I don't usually feel the need to quote every post, and I didn't this time. Unless you're a wimpy ten year old, edit back your post to where it stated I'm a worthless troll.
                            Last edited by Fusion; 01-29-2013, 09:24 AM.

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                            • Fusion
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 3658

                              #1634
                              Originally posted by rwh11385
                              No, but I do find when trolls get stuck they tend to make pointless blabbering posts to avoid the discussion at hand. Instead of talking about their abandoned points, they distract.
                              Nevermind, Opera kicks ass.

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                              • rwh11385
                                lance_entities
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 18403

                                #1635
                                Originally posted by Fusion
                                Thank you.

                                Edit: I don't usually feel the need to quote every post, and I didn't this time. Unless you're a wimpy ten year old, edit back your post to where it stated I'm a worthless troll.
                                I thought that further explaining why you are acting like a troll was a better use of the post, but if you want to be proud of being a worthless troll, then fine. Celebrate the fact that you contribute nothing but ignorance and a hatred of science.

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