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  • mar1t1me
    E30 Modder
    • Sep 2009
    • 863

    #31
    Originally posted by Massimo
    I perfectly good example is, if I was to ask a fellow co-worker out because I liked her, she can file a sexual harrasment suit against me.
    Nope. As an employer, I can tell you that it takes more than one comment. As a matter of law, unless it can be demonstrated that your actions created a hostile workplace and/or impaired her effectiveness on the job, and she cannot produce a number of witnesses who will testify to a negative pattern of behavior on your part, then no action against you is legal.

    From EEOC guidelines:

    Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).


    So, ask her out. If she says "no", and you never bring it up again, there are no grounds for a case.....

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    • Kershaw
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2010
      • 11822

      #32
      i didnt even know this was about race...?
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      • z31maniac
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Dec 2007
        • 17566

        #33
        Originally posted by tjts1
        Look whose 'race baiting'
        As usual your attempts to be "cute and witty" miss the point.

        Originally posted by Kershaw
        i didnt even know this was about race...?
        It shouldn't be, but look up what Brian Williams and NBC have been saying over the last few days.
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        • z31maniac
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Dec 2007
          • 17566

          #34
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          • ficklerx
            Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 89

            #35
            Herman Cain has no political friends. He's an outsider and the current political climate makes an outsider a popular choice. His popularity has made him an enemy of both parties.

            Obviously, the MSM is jumping in to take him down since he could ultimately threaten their 'chosen one.'

            But, the big question is which party is doing the most to sabotage his bid? Who is dragging all of these women out of the past? They are no coming out on their own. I'm sure there are other 'Larry Flynts' from both parties scouring his past.

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            • z31maniac
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Dec 2007
              • 17566

              #36
              Obviously biased source, but does it make her points any less relevant?

              read it and tell me what you think

              http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47438
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              • mar1t1me
                E30 Modder
                • Sep 2009
                • 863

                #37
                Originally posted by z31maniac
                Obviously biased source, but does it make her points any less relevant?

                read it and tell me what you think

                http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47438
                The source is the problem here. That woman has zero credibility. One need only look at her claim that "I love to engage in repartee with people who are stupider than I am." to get an idea of her intended audience. Truly wise people who value insight and self-improvement seek out people smarter than them from whom to learn. But not Ann.

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                • gwb72tii
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 3864

                  #38
                  Originally posted by mar1t1me
                  Nope. As an employer, I can tell you that it takes more than one comment. As a matter of law, unless it can be demonstrated that your actions created a hostile workplace and/or impaired her effectiveness on the job, and she cannot produce a number of witnesses who will testify to a negative pattern of behavior on your part, then no action against you is legal.

                  From EEOC guidelines:

                  Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

                  So, ask her out. If she says "no", and you never bring it up again, there are no grounds for a case.....
                  well isn't it true that the "cases" were in fact settled and no specific charges were ever lodged against cain?

                  here's some background info;
                  http://news.investors.com/Article/59...isbehavior.htm
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                  • mar1t1me
                    E30 Modder
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 863

                    #39
                    Originally posted by gwb72tii
                    well isn't it true that the "cases" were in fact settled and no specific charges were ever lodged against cain?
                    That's just it. He chose not to press his case, and signed onto a settlement presumably to keep things quiet, rather than protest his "innocence" in a court of law. There was some kind of settlement reached between Cain and the plaintiffs and everything seemed fine until.....

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                    • Javier h
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1189

                      #40
                      You guys have it wrong

                      The severance packages happen all the time. People who leave without anything usually means that they are just ignorant, and yes HR smiles when you walk away. It's not necessarily some admission of guilt etc.

                      For me, the issue is, supposedly, if we have all these low life media reality driven women out there, why are they just picking on Cain? Why not spread themselves (no pun) around? Here's the deal, within the next week or two, some hard evidence will be introduced. Like the rest of the politicians out there, democrats and republicans alike things come out in the wash.

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                      • joshh
                        R3V OG
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 6195

                        #41
                        Originally posted by mar1t1me
                        That's just it. He chose not to press his case, and signed onto a settlement presumably to keep things quiet, rather than protest his "innocence" in a court of law. There was some kind of settlement reached between Cain and the plaintiffs and everything seemed fine until.....


                        Cases like this are pointless to go to court over because it's an absolute he said she said. Just like a lawyer friend of mine paid one of his employees an extra 80 hours of *overtime* she never worked for. Although that didn't stop her from claiming it. Just pay the stupid bitch and make it go away because fighting it is a time waster and a money waster. People suck.





                        Ann Coulter=why does anyone read that nonsense?
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                        • bme30
                          Advanced Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 186

                          #42
                          Most likely she was flirting and somehow "inviting" him, before that touching occurred.

                          IF that was real, it was consensual act, BUT she was too dumb to pass the employment drug test or written test, and then accusing him for that.

                          Besides, women keep saying they want to be treated equally.
                          It's a joke.
                          Why if a woman rub a man's arm or touch his body is considered as a flattery compliment?

                          But. It IS sexual harassment if a man do it to a woman?

                          Isn't it what they want? Being treated equally? :wgaf:

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                          • gwb72tii
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 3864

                            #43
                            Originally posted by mar1t1me
                            That's just it. He chose not to press his case, and signed onto a settlement presumably to keep things quiet, rather than protest his "innocence" in a court of law. There was some kind of settlement reached between Cain and the plaintiffs and everything seemed fine until.....
                            I believe its up to the accuser to press her case
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                            • Hellabad
                              E30 Modder
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 807

                              #44
                              Originally posted by joshh





                              Ann Coulter=why does anyone read that nonsense?
                              Because everything she says can be substantiated by alternate sources, yet she says it with a dry sense of humor.

                              I am just curious, can you rebut anything in the specific article she wrote?
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                              • joshh
                                R3V OG
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 6195

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Hellabad
                                Because everything she says can be substantiated by alternate sources, yet she says it with a dry sense of humor.

                                I am just curious, can you rebut anything in the specific article she wrote?


                                I'm a hard core conservative and don't read what she says anymore or much want to hear it. She intentionally says things to hurt. Like someone forgot to teach her compassion.

                                Of course not, because all she's doing is repeating what's already known.
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