Question for Christians.

[cabriodster87]

Jesus

To be bornagain ,the way to god is through the son.

[lolfunafghan]

In the most simplest way that I can describe it... The nation of Israel

That would be Judaism? I don't think we need to get in an argument, as I know this is the common view around here and in America...



I'd love for this to be a serious, and well responded thread, but its doomed to turn into an argument.

[joshh]

I respect those who don't want to answer. This subject has been beaten to death.

I have a very clear idea of what I consider a "real" Christian. And it's generally those types that you find being selfless and interested in helping those who need more help than themselves.
Regardless of what I personally think of the religion overall.

[lolfunafghan]

I respect those who don't want to answer. This subject has been beaten to death.

I have a very clear idea of what I consider a "real" Christian. And it's generally those types that you find being selfless and interested in helping those who need more help than themselves.
Regardless of what I personally think of the religion overall.

The issue is its very hard to be able to be able to tell a "real" Christian is. Many claim to be, and are incredibly self righteous and pious? Does that make them "less" of a Christian? Course now, but It does give a bad name and show they are not truly committed.

[joshh]

The issue is its very hard to be able to be able to tell a "real" Christian is. Many claim to be, and are incredibly self righteous and pious? Does that make them "less" of a Christian? Course now, but It does give a bad name and show they are not truly committed.

I'm sure there are plenty of Christians that have that view but don't have the resources to do so. So no, it's more a sense of mind.
Just that you beleive in "god" Imo does not make you a Christian. Or as I say a true Christian. Maybe a Christian of sorts or variation.

[drummerchubbs]

Being a true Christian means being Christ-like. Doing what Christ did for us through his mercy, love, and most importantly grace. It's not a religion or something you do on Sundays. Its a daily struggle to live a righteous life that God desires. It's about being the dead to your own selfish immoral self and being alive in Christ. Also, every day we need to be the light of the world and reflect Jesus.

Read the Bible and you will see what you need to do to be Christ like. :)

Thanks for listening.

[lolfunafghan]

I'm sure there are plenty of Christians that have that view but don't have the resources to do so. So no, it's more a sense of mind.
Just that you beleive in "god" Imo does not make you a Christian. Or as I say a true Christian. Maybe a Christian of sorts or variation.

The definition of a "true Christian", in its simplest form, is that you accept Jesus as your one and only savior. That is the only requirement. If you mean "true Christian" as in, saved. If you mean a "true Christian" as in one who best embodies the likeness of Christ, then disregard what I said. I should have clarified earlier.

[slaterd]

Being a true Christian means being Christ-like. Doing what Christ did for us through his mercy, love, and most importantly grace. It's not a religion or something you do on Sundays. Its a daily struggle to live a righteous life that God desires. It's about being the dead to your own selfish immoral self and being alive in Christ. Also, every day we need to be the light of the world and reflect Jesus.

Read the Bible and you will see what you need to do to be Christ like. :)

Thanks for listening.

But what if you live a righteous life, being good, passionate, and everything that Jesus represented...but you didn't have a religion? Would you be considered a true Christian? I'm not trying to start anything I'm just curious.

[Roysneon]

What makes you a Christian in your own words? What makes you feel you can call yourself a Christian with confidence?

From all my understandings, I believe in Christ, I try my best to live by his teachings, and therefore will be saved when my time on earth is over. If you don't believe that, then that's cool, it's your right to make up your own mind.

[slaterd]

^Another question. I believe in Jesus Christ, I believe that he was a real person. I believe my morals and ethics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ such as being a good person, treating others well, and being true. However, with that said I don't believe in a higher being. What would that make me? My morals match his teachings because I genuinely want to be a good person.

[FunfGan]

^Another question. I believe in Jesus Christ, I believe that he was a real person. I believe my morals and ethics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ such as being a good person, treating others well, and being true. However, with that said I don't believe in a higher being. What would that make me? My morals match his teachings because I genuinely want to be a good person.

So you believe in a wholly perfect being, that just sprouted up out of nowhere? That really makes you nothing haha(religion wise). Thats basically the same as following a more modern day teacher, or religious figure. You're still an atheist, just an atheist who at least has his morals in a better place than most. Hopefully that came out correctly, not trying to sound like a dick.

[slaterd]

sounds kosher.

[FunfGan]

sounds kosher.

I see what you did there :giggle:

[joshh]

The definition of a "true Christian", in its simplest form, is that you accept Jesus as your one and only savior. That is the only requirement. If you mean "true Christian" as in, saved. If you mean a "true Christian" as in one who best embodies the likeness of Christ, then disregard what I said. I should have clarified earlier.

I personally don't think it's that simple. Many people believe Christ is their savior but still go around sinning and committing crimes/ripping people off or just simply being assholes to other people for no good reason. That's not what I see as a "true" Christian.
Being a Christian is a life style not an idea for convenience because you don't want to go to hell.
That's how I see it from the reading the bible (much of it) I've done and the many Christians and sects I've had discussions with.

[FunfGan]

I personally don't think it's that simple. Many people believe Christ is their savior but still go around sinning and committing crimes/ripping people off or just simply being assholes to other people for no good reason. That's not what I see as a "true" Christian.
Being a Christian is a life style not an idea for convenience because you don't want to go to hell.
That's how I see it from the reading the bible (much of it) I've done and the many Christians and sects I've had discussions with.

Again, it would help if you could clarify your terms. To be saved, nothing more than what I have said is required. Its not a matter of what you think, its a matter of what the Bible says. Its very clear in the explanation that faith is all thats require. Now, as I said before, that does not make you a good Christian, simply saved. Now, yes, a true faithful Christian SHOULD emanate the life, works and ideals of Christ, but as you already pointed out, that is not always the case. Being a Christian does not mean you are perfect and sinless, but that you admit you are a sinner and can not help yourself on your own.