Stop stammering & release your returns!

[dinanm3atl]

Especially since more and more Americans are becoming broke asses every year. Nobody is willing to even work for anything but expects $100k jobs to fall in their laps:
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-08-03/u...filed?_s=PM:US

As Thompson sees it, any reasonable employer would pounce on an applicant with her academic credentials, which include a 2.7 grade-point average and a solid attendance record. But Monroe's career-services department has put forth insufficient effort to help her secure employment, she claims

ROFLMAO

A 2.7 average and solid attendance. I am surprised no one has hired here. And an extra 2,000 dollars for the stress of searching for 3 months? THREE MONTHS? hahahahaa

"It doesn't make any sense: They went to school for four years, and then they come out working at McDonald's and Payless. That's not what they planned."

I went to college so I am entitled to a job. And it needs to be a good job with insurance, benefits, retirement and lots of money. These people are amazing! Not sure where going to college meant you were guaranteed all of this because you went to college. Just because you graduated from college does not make you a good employee. It means you can ready a book and pass some tests. It can get you an interview potentially but you need to be able to sell yourself and what you offer.

[gwb72tii]

I personally support and encourage Mitt to make as much money as humanly possible and am happy to see that the numbers are indicating that he has done so; especially in the last few years. Mitt's success directly indicates that Barrack has not attacked free enterprise, ruined the economy, or made it impossible for the 1% to continue profiting. We can all relax now.

fail

[joshh]

^Not anywhere near the level of Romney.

Because he hasn't taken the risk that Mitt has. Rich is rich specially when it comes to talking to a 99%er. No wait the double standard doesn't apply to Obama because he's "not as rich".

I personally support and encourage Mitt to make as much money as humanly possible and am happy to see that the numbers are indicating that he has done so; especially in the last few years. Mitt's success directly indicates that Barrack has not attacked free enterprise, ruined the economy, or made it impossible for the 1% to continue profiting. We can all relax now.

Was this serious or sarcasm?

[Morrison]

For the record, I was being serious, but the snarky undertones were intended.

[z31maniac]

Because he hasn't taken the risk that Mitt has. Rich is rich specially when it comes to talking to a 99%er. No wait the double standard doesn't apply to Obama because he's "not as rich".

Just saying Romeny is in an even different league than that.

He paid more in taxes, and gave more away to charity just last year than Obama's net worth.

[rwh11385]

Because he hasn't taken the risk that Mitt has. Rich is rich specially when it comes to talking to a 99%er. No wait the double standard doesn't apply to Obama because he's "not as rich".

While Mitt was out making something of himself, Obama was smoking weed and doing coke while figuring out what he wanted to do with his life...

Who wouldn't want the one who worked hard at more than just 'community organizing' to be make more money?

[joshh]

While Mitt was out making something of himself, Obama was smoking weed and doing coke while figuring out what he wanted to do with his life...

Who wouldn't want the one who worked hard at more than just 'community organizing' to be make more money?

That wasn't my point. Mitt is unfairly getting criticized "because he's rich" and how he went about it (so what). But Obama gets no criticism but he's also rich and the way he went about that. Which has been to use his position to make him wealthy. So one guy creates jobs and risks a lot of money to fix companies (some still fail) while the other guy gets rich from fan fair and sucking cock (lobbyists) Which is worse....

[scabzzzz]

While Mitt was out making something of himself, Obama was smoking weed and doing coke while figuring out what he wanted to do with his life...

Who wouldn't want the one who worked hard at more than just 'community organizing' to be make more money?

First off, whats wrong with smoking weed and doing coke recreationaly when you're young? And when you say Mitt was "making something of himself", you mean he was patted on the ass and sent in the general vacinity of the cash by his family, right? (Not discrediting his intellect or ability to gamble well)

Ill take the community organizer. Because sometimes, shit just isnt about money and wealth. And look who is NOT president right now. And look who is. And look who probably WILL BE our next president. (Hint, rhymes with YO MOMMA)

[joshh]

First off, whats wrong with smoking weed and doing coke recreationaly when you're young? And when you say Mitt was "making something of himself", you mean he was patted on the ass and sent in the general vacinity of the cash by his family, right? (Not discrediting his intellect or ability to gamble well)

Ill take the community organizer. Because sometimes, shit just isnt about money and wealth. And look who is NOT president right now. And look who is. And look who probably WILL BE our next president. (Hint, rhymes with YO MOMMA)

Do you know what a "community organizer" (Saul Alinsky type) really is? No it's not a neighborhood watch program.

[rwh11385]

First off, whats wrong with smoking weed and doing coke recreationaly when you're young? And when you say Mitt was "making something of himself", you mean he was patted on the ass and sent in the general vacinity of the cash by his family, right? (Not discrediting his intellect or ability to gamble well)

Ill take the community organizer. Because sometimes, shit just isnt about money and wealth. And look who is NOT president right now. And look who is. And look who probably WILL BE our next president. (Hint, rhymes with YO MOMMA)

Nothing is inherently wrong as long as one is responsible and works and follows a path to be a constructive member of society... but it is limiting in what can ultimately be accomplished (as doors may be closed, like security clearance). Some employers don't care or don't ask... but that doesn't mean all industries or jobs follow the same philosophies. And like all vices - women, alcohol, drugs, COD/WOW... these things can potentially lead one astray from goals.

HOWEVER, it is a gigantic hypocrisy to party and have fun and say "sometimes shit just isn't about money and wealth" and then go and be jealous that others are more wealthy or make more money. [Not implying you do, you're mostly DGAF] Some don't violate logic by conceding jealousy in favor of personal enjoyment, but so many people I've seen make choices based on pleasure forgoing hard work and then get upset when results for them are not what others have.

[scabzzzz]

Do you know what a "community organizer" (Saul Alinsky type) really is? No it's not a neighborhood watch program.

Thanks asshole. I actually had to look up Saul Alinsky, but I wasnt far off on what I meant versus what I thought was meant by that term.

[scabzzzz]

Nothing is inherently wrong as long as one is responsible and works and follows a path to be a constructive member of society... but it is limiting in what can ultimately be accomplished (as doors may be closed, like security clearance). Some employers don't care or don't ask... but that doesn't mean all industries or jobs follow the same philosophies. And like all vices - women, alcohol, drugs, COD/WOW... these things can potentially lead one astray from goals.

HOWEVER, it is a gigantic hypocrisy to party and have fun and say "sometimes shit just isn't about money and wealth" and then go and be jealous that others are more wealthy or make more money. [Not implying you do, you're mostly DGAF] Some don't violate logic by conceding jealousy in favor of personal enjoyment, but so many people I've seen make choices based on pleasure forgoing hard work and then get upset when results for them are not what others have.

I mean I see your points, and I know youve traveled and are cultured enough to know the difference, but everyones point in here and this section and this thread is pretty White and biased, learned from your hometown, Whiteandbiasedville.

Your statements Heeter prove you are exactly what the politicians are when it comes to drugs. You dont do them yourself, but you have lots of opinions on people who do and why they are bad. Maybe if Newt sat down, smoked a fucking joint and got a backrub from his wife or gave his wife a backrub, and then fucked the ever living shit out of her, he wouldnt need to shit on the 7th commandment and be chastised publically for it.

But you're right on the second part for sure. And everything that is wrong with this country exactly explains why that is. People are broke, people are sick and tired of being sick and tired. I know you guys are sitting pretty in your engineering jobs and shit, but I know people that have GOOD degrees and GOOD experience and WANT to work, and cant find work. Even in Nashville. Jealousy doesnt mean shit when you cant afford to pay your car note, much less your rent. Its all a pipe dream at that point, which is why we embrace these rags-to-riches stories from rappers and other people that we can relate to.

By the way, can you guys relate to Romney? How about Obama?

Fuck it, jealousy is a key factor in my desire to even go to work. I like jealousy.

[rwh11385]

I mean I see your points, and I know youve traveled and are cultured enough to know the difference, but everyones point in here and this section and this thread is pretty White and biased, learned from your hometown, Whiteandbiasedville.

Your statements Heeter prove you are exactly what the politicians are when it comes to drugs. You dont do them yourself, but you have lots of opinions on people who do and why they are bad. Maybe if Newt sat down, smoked a fucking joint and got a backrub from his wife or gave his wife a backrub, and then fucked the ever living shit out of her, he wouldnt need to shit on the 7th commandment and be chastised publically for it.

But you're right on the second part for sure. And everything that is wrong with this country exactly explains why that is. People are broke, people are sick and tired of being sick and tired. I know you guys are sitting pretty in your engineering jobs and shit, but I know people that have GOOD degrees and GOOD experience and WANT to work, and cant find work. Even in Nashville. Jealousy doesnt mean shit when you cant afford to pay your car note, much less your rent. Its all a pipe dream at that point, which is why we embrace these rags-to-riches stories from rappers and other people that we can relate to.

By the way, can you guys relate to Romney? How about Obama?

Fuck it, jealousy is a key factor in my desire to even go to work. I like jealousy.

Sure bro, I mean... what would the world be if people could put aside bias and actually see across differences and work things out? Not throw fits in legislature, don't walk out if you don't want to discuss a bill, and find compromise. What would political media be if not biased and constantly slamming the other side with ridiculous arguments and correlation = causation thinking, etc.? (Oh wait, it probably wouldn't be generating as many revenues or viewers if the other party's candidate wasn't going to eat your children) Pretty sure the internetz polarizes people a LOT more than IRL so not surprising...

I think I was fair in my statements. I think it would be incorrect to say that drugs or partying never changed a life path or led people astray. Even if Prohibition was lifted (which makes a lot of sense) and it was no longer criminal or a risk in that manner, it still has a chance of getting carried away like with alcohol or video games (know more than a couple people who failed out because of WOW). You are going to argue against that? Newt is an uptight prick and a hypocrite, so who knows what would straighten him out. He probably would find someone else to rub him.

I think people are able to find work if they drop their pride that they are too good for a warehouse job or whatever.

And I think its rags-to-riches stories and success miracles that change people's perceptions about how many times an entrepreneur fails before hitting it big, how much dedication things take, etc. And it also makes people focus on glamour of it all, rather than wanting to be boring aka responsible... like paying bills and managing how much expenses one chooses to have.

But the point was (about Mitt vs. O), people who hard work and giving up nights or weekends or holidays ought to be rewarded more than those who take those times for leisure or pleasure. (Whatever that may be) A lot of people you see with success in the world got there through sacrifice, not by some crazy luck. There are exceptions, but generally the more you work hard, the better you ought to do. Even those 'evil' Wall Street guys are putting in 80 hours weeks of hard analysis and sacrificing themselves, shouldn't they do better than those putting in half as much time? (Of course, that brings in the question of work/life balance and what are you working for if you have nice things but don't have time to enjoy them... but that again asks why people who don't sacrifice as much expect the fruits of their labor through jealousy)

I don't relate to either honestly. But how many Presidential candidates come from your average middle class upbringing? Newt and Obama pointing to Romney because he is rich is the pot calling the kettle black, as they both are far better off than the vast majority of voters they are advocating for. (I mean, besides obviously the people who lobby them and they really work hardest for)

[gwb72tii]

^^
well said

[dinanm3atl]

I mean I see your points, and I know youve traveled and are cultured enough to know the difference, but everyones point in here and this section and this thread is pretty White and biased, learned from your hometown, Whiteandbiasedville.

Your statements Heeter prove you are exactly what the politicians are when it comes to drugs. You dont do them yourself, but you have lots of opinions on people who do and why they are bad. Maybe if Newt sat down, smoked a fucking joint and got a backrub from his wife or gave his wife a backrub, and then fucked the ever living shit out of her, he wouldnt need to shit on the 7th commandment and be chastised publically for it.

But you're right on the second part for sure. And everything that is wrong with this country exactly explains why that is. People are broke, people are sick and tired of being sick and tired. I know you guys are sitting pretty in your engineering jobs and shit, but I know people that have GOOD degrees and GOOD experience and WANT to work, and cant find work. Even in Nashville. Jealousy doesnt mean shit when you cant afford to pay your car note, much less your rent. Its all a pipe dream at that point, which is why we embrace these rags-to-riches stories from rappers and other people that we can relate to.

By the way, can you guys relate to Romney? How about Obama?

Fuck it, jealousy is a key factor in my desire to even go to work. I like jealousy.

OK? And? The economy is not doing great and people with degrees(Not that this part matters) cannot find work? Are they looking for anything or looking for that sweet job?

I don't have an engineering job. I work sales, started a photography business AND part out cars. I work 7 days a week sometimes. With Daytona 24 this weekend I will be up early doing work. At the track taking pictures. Then go to the media center and answer emails for both the other jobs. Then go shoot again. Then go to hotel and up till 2am

There is more out than office jobs/engineering jobs/high paying stuff. As Heeter said you might have to work a little extra and put in some mileage. That is what this country is about. Not sure when it started with "I went to college and deserve a job with a cushy salary, paid vacation, insurance and nice benefits." but that is where we are at. Great you went to college and got a degree... you have a piece of paper. What kind of worker are you? What do you bring to the table? What do you offer the company?


Stuff like this is just LOL worthy:(from earlier in this thread)

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-08-03/us/new.york.jobless.graduate_1_job-search-job-placement-filed?_s=PM:US