I think you should know where I stand, in other words, fiscally conservati and socially liberal.
My agreeing with his fiscal policies in no way means I agree with his or the R party in general social policies.
And yes, I believe the gov't should be accountable to certain financial rules......much like state and local govt's are.
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what exactly are you addressing? in detail please.
RE: taxes and job growth/loss.. never in all my years have i heard my father, a small business owner, say 'gee, taxes are high, i'm gonna have to lay off one of my guys'. small businesses can't afford to lose competent, trained employees. they tough it out together because the alternative is too costly in the long run.
by contrast, corporations can cut people left and right because ultimately, they don't care about their employees, and their employees don't matter to them. outsourcing, downsizing, cost-cutting, taking advantage of tax loopholes, shifty investment strategies.. it's all driven by corporate greed. shall we continue to pander to that mentality?
let people be laid off. let them find other work with a smaller company, a newer company, a company that gives a shit.. and let the giants crumble under their own poor employee-employer relations strategies. and in the meantime, let these people collect a little unemployment. it's not like they're living the high life off of their $200/week checks. you guys paint such a fantastically overblown picture of people who receive entitlements. where is your human side? or are you as soulless as the corporate fucks who continue to puppeteer our economy?Leave a comment:
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What do you mean out of thin air? no he's not going to go out and take job interviews for them and tell a company you better hire this man because I say so. But he will do a better job and helping the economy so companies will want to hire worker 1,2,3,4. Compared to what Obama has done which is basically encourage people that yes it is ok to not work. The government will do everything we can to keep you on that couch and collecting every form of free possible because hey, someone else will pay your share.Leave a comment:
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that's what im talking about.
you're just adding 4 people out of thin air. that is exactly romney's line of thinking. "im going to make more jobs and lower taxes guys, vote for me!" congrats on demonstrating it so well.Leave a comment:
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Decent details? All the man did was rebuke the existing plans and cherry pick vague statements from arguments made during the debate.
By not offering anything of substance, Romney (and by endorsing him, the whole of the Republican party) comes across as a man without a plan. You act like these people are schoolchildren with a big secret.
Plan under Obama:
If 10 people work and pay $10 in taxes that's 100 dollars. Now only 5 people work so let's charge them $20 and let the other 5 sit on their ass and subsequently keep raising taxes until there's one guy left paying all the taxes (the rich). That plan only works till the rich guys runs dry.
Romeny plan:
Lets get all 10 guys working and then add 4 people so we have 14 working and oh by the way lets drop the rate X% (in this case I'll use 10%) oh look now all 14 of you pay $9 and we are making money to lower the deficient because we simply got more people working which is exactly what he said last night.
Don't go nit picking what I just said above as it is a very very basic model but the general idea is there.Leave a comment:
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Decent details? All the man did was rebuke the existing plans and cherry pick vague statements from arguments made during the debate.
By not offering anything of substance, Romney (and by endorsing him, the whole of the Republican party) comes across as a man without a plan. You act like these people are schoolchildren with a big secret.Leave a comment:
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Romney didn't give every single detail about what he's going to do because that's not the way to go about it and win a presidency. He gave decent details on pans. Even listing 5 or 6 steps on multiple occasions (much more than Obama did) After you outline steps in enough detail for people to get an understanding you then work with congress to set up your policies following the guidelines you said in your campaign. It's not a I'm president and therefore all the things I want will be law and there is no say in how the country will be run. He's a president not a king. He's not going to explain every last detail down to what pen he will use to sign the documents.
Kershaw is whining about the very same thing Obama did when he was running for President. But against Romney.....Leave a comment:
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Decent details? All the man did was rebuke the existing plans and cherry pick vague statements from arguments made during the debate.
By not offering anything of substance, Romney (and by endorsing him, the whole of the Republican party) comes across as a man without a plan. You act like these people are schoolchildren with a big secret.Leave a comment:
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i could not get over romney's constant forced persona he put on. that smile made me cringe. and the crap he said was ridiculous. broad, sweeping and unsubstantiated feel good statements. lots of, "let's make america better!" very little of how he was going to do that. :loco:
i think obama was genuinely caught off guard by what romney was saying. i did chuckle when obama said, "if you think wall street needs less regulation and oversight, romney is definitely the candidate for you."Leave a comment:
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i think obama was genuinely caught off guard by what romney was saying. i did chuckle when obama said, "if you think wall street needs less regulation and oversight, romney is definitely the candidate for you."
Originally posted by President ObamaWhen I got on the stage, I met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be Mitt Romney. But it couldn't have been Mitt Romney, because the real Mitt Romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. The fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that.
The real Mitt Romney said we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms, but
the fellow on stage last night, he loves teachers, can't get enough of them.
The Mitt Romney we all know invested in companies that were called pioneers of outsourcing jobs to other countries, but the guy on stage last night said he doesn't even know that there were such laws that encourage outsourcing. He's never heard of them!
Never heard of tax breaks for companies that shift jobs overseas? He said that if it's true he must need a new accountant.
Now, we know for sure it was not the real Mitt Romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant.
So, you see, the man on stage last night does not want to be held accountable for the real Mitt Romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. And that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year.
So Governor Romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president you owe the American people the truth.
So here's the truth: Governor Romney cannot cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan his tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. That's the math.
We can't afford to go down that road again. We can't afford another round of budget busting tax cuts for the wealthy. We can't afford to gut our investments in education or clean energy or research and technology.
We can't afford to roll back regulations on Wall Street, or oil companies, or insurance companies. We cannot afford to double down on the same top down economic policies that got us into this mess. That is not a plan to create jobs. That is not a plan to grow the economy. That is not a plan to create change. That is a relapse. We don't want to go back there. We've tried it. It didn't work and we are not going back. We are going forward.Leave a comment:
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None of this matters...
because the electoral college has already decided who they're voting for.Leave a comment:
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I think there is a better chance of fair under Romney, at least he'll get the country moving in the right direction. And his overall plan makes sense get more people working jobs and then lower the tax rate. It will benefit everyone and most importantly the country as a whole.
And that puts him on the map that much more. The man simply knows business far better than Obama and for that reason alone will make this country a better place for Americans. Thus his comment about more jobs equal more revenue...schooling Obama on economics 101.Leave a comment:
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