Obama supports new bid to ban assault weapons.

[joshh]

That is not entirely true. Guns do not have to be reported for sale unless its sold across state lines or by a dealer. In a private sale you are to verify that the person is of age to purchase the firearm but it is up to the buyer to know the law before buying one.

If I sell a firearm though a private sale, I take 2 forms of ID and make copies for my file. I also have them sign a statement saying they are breaking no laws when purchasing the firearm. I keep that in my safe just in case the firearm is ever tracked back to me.

That didn't change anything I said. ?

[Vedubin01]

B You're supposed to check the person's background before the sale.

That didn't change anything I said. ?

the answer is, NO you are not supposed to check a persons background.

[joshh]

In Oregon even a private sale (Oregon resident to Oregon resident) you are supposed to call and check that the person is not a felon.

[joshh]

http://oregonfirearms.org/faq/

4th? Question down.

[Vedubin01]

In Oregon even a private sale (Oregon resident to Oregon resident) you are supposed to call and check that the person is not a felon.

What number do you call?

[joshh]

what number do you call?

1800 432-5059

[Vedubin01]

1800 432-5059

I did not dig too much but I only read that as for FFL Dealers and this "The unit is also responsible for conducting background checks for private party sales at gun shows."


Nothing for person to person private sales outside gun shows.

[frankenbeemer]

In Oregon even a private sale (Oregon resident to Oregon resident) you are supposed to call and check that the person is not a felon.

http://oregonfirearms.org/faq/

4th? Question down.

I bought my gun at a gun shop and so of course it's registered in my name. I want to sell it privately, how should I go about making sure it is no longer in my name after the sale?

Thanks,
Elaine

You have no legal obligation to do anything. Private sales are private and are legal as long as you sell to an Oregon resident who is not a prohibited person.
If you want a record that the gun is no longer in your possession, you can have a bill of sale signed by the buyer. If you want the police to have a record of the transfer you MAY but are NOT required to, conduct a background check on the buyer. This costs $10.00 which must be paid by credit card. You contact the state police id unit for this check. The phone number is : 1-800-432-5059

Reading this, I can only assume you are "supposing" someone will call. That seems different from your original assertion. In any case, it appears that there is no law compelling you to perform this action.

[mrsleeve]

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1 our local venues for guns shows dont allow Person to Person transaction in the parking lot. They have people out there to monitor that, does this keep you both from driving to the safe way parking lot and making the deal there. NO, does this happen, I am sure it does on occasion, but its most defiantly not as prevalent as those touting gun hole loop hole would have you believe

Next in a Person to Person transfer, (especially with handguns) you do as dub says, unless your state requires further documentation. If you have any reason to believe that someone is unstable, habitual substance abuser, has a felony, and if you suspect they intend to do harm with that weapon. In fact if you think know or suspect any of these things its illegal to sell to them.

[agent]

Guns do not have to be reported for sale unless its sold across state lines or by a dealer. In a private sale you are to verify that the person is of age to purchase the firearm but it is up to the buyer to know the law before buying one.

Same in TN. The only exception to that is (obviously) a straw purchase.

[joshh]

I bought my gun at a gun shop and so of course it's registered in my name. I want to sell it privately, how should I go about making sure it is no longer in my name after the sale?

Thanks,
Elaine

You have no legal obligation to do anything. Private sales are private and are legal as long as you sell to an Oregon resident who is not a prohibited person.
If you want a record that the gun is no longer in your possession, you can have a bill of sale signed by the buyer. If you want the police to have a record of the transfer you MAY but are NOT required to, conduct a background check on the buyer. This costs $10.00 which must be paid by credit card. You contact the state police id unit for this check. The phone number is : 1-800-432-5059

Reading this, I can only assume you are "supposing" someone will call. That seems different from your original assertion. In any case, it appears that there is no law compelling you to perform this action.

From my original assertion? Then you're not reading. I'm making the argument that person to person sales (not at gun shows, which are controlled) are the issue. Gun shows are what liberals worry about but in fact that's not the real issue.

[mrsleeve]

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there are millions and millions of person to person transfers every year. By and large they are not the issue either.

Criminals are the real issue but then you know this already

[frankenbeemer]

From my original assertion? Then you're not reading. I'm making the argument that person to person sales (not at gun shows, which are controlled) are the issue. Gun shows are what liberals worry about but in fact that's not the real issue.

Slow down and reread, I'm not addressing whether private sales or gun shows are a problem. I asked mrsleeve (with whom I am in complete agreement about this issue) if there was any law that prohibited private party sales at gun shows. Your assumptions about my motives for asking are irritating and erroneous, as is your claim that I am not reading. I am asking you respectfully to apply some rigor to your arguments.

Did you not claim that you are supposed to call? Why would you claim you are supposed to call? Can you cite any law which compels you to do so?

[joshh]

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there are millions and millions of person to person transfers every year. By and large they are not the issue either.

Criminals are the real issue but then you know this already

I disagree. We have a problem with legal owners not locking up their firearms. And kids being shot, some people who are mentally unstable getting their hands on registered firearms and using them in murders. All it takes is an owner not knowing they have to/should check with authorities and selling their firearm to Joe Schmoe and you have a criminal with a firearm. There's also a problem with straw sales in this country.
Statistically it's small comared to the way many people are killed in this country every year. But gun owners need to better educated in the safety of their firearms and the storage of them.

Slow down and reread, I'm not addressing whether private sales or gun shows are a problem. I asked mrsleeve (with whom I am in complete agreement about this issue) if there was any law that prohibited private party sales at gun shows. Your assumptions about my motives for asking are irritating and erroneous, as is your claim that I am not reading. I am asking you respectfully to apply some rigor to your arguments.

Did you not claim that you are supposed to call? Why would you claim you are supposed to call? Can you cite any law which compels you to do so?

You clearly assumed my argument was different than it is. Clearly showing you either didn't understand what I said or you didn't want to understand what I said.
Call the number I posted and ask them for yourself.Does it matter if it's a law or not...it's wether a person actually does or does not do it.

You want to know if it is a law....call them. And if it's not? It just supports my argument that much more. We have a problem with private to private sales.

[turge]

We don't need more Gun Regulations.

This is what we are headed towards: