Missing Flight MH370 777-200

[einhander]

What was the weather at the hypothetical time of landing too?

[DER E30]

You must not have taken the time to look to the post I was referencing, where I shared info on a 445+km deserted transport highway in China.

I did, and I read the thing by Keith Ledgerwood, which I thought was interesting.

I looked up the 777 on wikipedia and landing something 300,000pounds empty seems difficult. This pic makes the wheels something like 50 feet apart. I suppose they could have found a wide spot, and landing the weight of 3 or 4 loaded semi trucks on the road seems doable

It just seems like A LOT of trouble to me. The flight sim could have helped though...

[Farbin Kaiber]

http://jon-browning.photoshelter.com/gallery/Tarim-Desert-Highway-China/G0000EYkx77qiKYA/

Looks to be two lanes in the stuff I can find...

[DER E30]

How close would the plane have to be to the singapore flight 68 to appear as a single blip?


I would think it would have to be WELL within sight, but with the lights off, they would probably disappear into the night sky...

[gkurey]

I can tell you that when flying formation in the dark, if the moon isn't out, with no lights, another jet can be within 10 feet and you won't see it; Nevermind the fact that airliners have poor visibility all around except forward. Flying in a close trail wouldn't be tough at all. Lots of professional aviators do it all the time over long distances.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Well, with the report of MH370 @ FL295(29,500ft), and SQ68 @FL300(30,000ft.) and being 50-100ft trailing, the lead plane would not be able to block all paints. Two distinct blips would exist from most locations getting a reading. The gap would have to be that to prevent turbulence from falling right onto the trailing plane as I have read so far.

The ability to pull off shadowing and the terrain mapping are the two biggest obstacles in this line of thinking.

So, it kinda doesn't work.

[mulletman]

So around 2600 to 5000 feet. And being a desert, the temperature isn't going to help your cause.

Long ground roll is long. I'd bet my next paycheck that isn't where the airplane is.

[Farbin Kaiber]

So around 2600 to 5000 feet. And being a desert, the temperature isn't going to help your cause.

Long ground roll is long. I'd bet my next paycheck that isn't where the airplane is.

The Takla Makan’s climate is moderately warm and markedly continental, with a maximum annual temperature range of 70 °F (39 °C). Precipitation is extremely low, ranging from 1.5 inches (38 mm) per year in the west to 0.4 inch (10 mm) annually in the east. The air temperature in the summer is high, rising to as much as 100 °F (38 °C) on the eastern edge of the desert. In July the average air temperature is 77 °F (25 °C) in the eastern regions. Winters are cold: In January the average air temperature is 14 to 16 °F (−10 to −9 °C), and the lowest temperature reached in winter generally falls below −4 °F (−20 °C).

I'm looking for data for the 8th, but it's a big area...

[freeride53]

This thread.... yikes ....

[Farbin Kaiber]

This thread.... yikes ....

Well, it's not as bad as the Stickerbomb thread.

[cale]

http://jon-browning.photoshelter.com...00EYkx77qiKYA/

Looks to be two lanes in the stuff I can find...

Landing with one set of gear in the dirt, sounds feasible.

[DER E30]

How fast could a 777 dive from 29,500 to near ground level for terrain mapping? Using the most aggressive method.
Bigger question - If they were at a close tail and did get past radar coverage, could they drop down below the next radar station in time?

How could they hide a thing that big anywhere where a spy satellite wouldn't have seen it? Seems like if they landed and refueled for a few hours, then why didn't somebody's satellite get a picture of a big plane sitting somewhere.


If I can see a garden hose running across my lawn on google maps, then the gov saw it.
Splash.

[Farbin Kaiber]

How could they hide a thing that big anywhere where a spy satellite wouldn't have seen it? Seems like if they landed and refueled for a few hours, then why didn't somebody's satellite get a picture of a big plane sitting somewhere.

Maybe they did. Do you think for even a second, the US (or any other Superpower) would release the fact that they have real time adaptable/positionable sat imaging that can pinpoint a wayward airliner.

For all we know, there are even demands, that are so large, that the public is not being informed, do you ever see a live update on hostage negotiations? Nope.

[mulletman]

How fast could a 777 dive from 29,500 to near ground level for terrain mapping? Using the most aggressive method.
Bigger question - If they were at a close tail and did get past radar coverage, could they drop down below the next radar station in time?

How could they hide a thing that big anywhere where a spy satellite wouldn't have seen it? Seems like if they landed and refueled for a few hours, then why didn't somebody's satellite get a picture of a big plane sitting somewhere.


If I can see a garden hose running across my lawn on google maps, then the gov saw it.
Splash.

Probably 4000 feet per minute. Somewhere around there. Maybe a little more. Radar overlaps in most places.

[freeride53]

Ah, the Times of Israel. Truly a paper of record...

Well, it's not as bad as the Stickerbomb thread.

Tru dat.