Missing Flight MH370 777-200

[DER E30]

^I understand it's a privilege and not a right to have access to the info, what I'm saying is that is a pretty important factoid.


Your link says a mile back and above, and I'm hearing from other pilots that even within 100ft offset back and 500ft below, two distinct blips would show.

(EDIT:So does the article, with a different explaination.)

Is the engine's diagnostics and such all tied to the main altimeter? Could a person adjust the altimeter to read 500 ft low? Then you could fly right there at the same level and be reporting that you were off a bit from true altitude. keeping your ears open you could listen for the correct level anyway.

[einhander]

I've seen many things corroborated and verified in less than ten days.

Not in Malaysia, you haven't.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Likely true. I know a bunch of people from Indonesia(Sumatra), so I can assume from their proximity could correlate and I'd have to think differently I guess.

[DEV0 E30]

Plenty of people I know think there were man-made motives, I can't get behind that unless there is more than conjecture personally.

A different perspective, that leads to more of my belief: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03...ectrical-fire/

We'll know someday, but if it did crash in the ocean it may take a few years even with our advancements in technology. It took 73 years to find the Titanic. (1912 sank, found in 1985)

Everything is just conspiracy theories until it's found.

Edit: Nobody caught my Homeworld reference? It's like Eve ppl, I haven't played any PC games in years.

[ThatOneEuroE30]

New report says the the new search area spans over 2.2 million square miles. Good luck ever finding that plane.

[Victell]

Another theory:

a tire caught on fire, the pilot turned off all of the circuits, including the transponder, as per fire protocol - to isolate the problem. Smoke overwhelmed everyone in the cockpit and cabin, and the plane flew unmanned until crashing somewhere in the Indian Ocean.

[DEV0 E30]

^^^ Same author is quoted as the article I posted, nearly the same article.

[gkurey]

This is the best, most plausible theory to date.

[DER E30]

This is the best, most plausible theory to date.

Boom, makes sense. Splash

[Subtle]

New report says the the new search area spans over 2.2 million square miles. Good luck ever finding that plane.

I walk that in a weekend PFFFT.

[UNHCLL]

Hey Farbio -

Do you think Derek Zoolander was brainwashed to kill the Malaysian Primer Minister using the Jet?

[einhander]

^

[mulletman]

I'll be the first to call BS on that fire theory. For that story to work, the following have to be true:

- The fire was enough to overwhelm the crew, but then not enough to compromise the rest of the airplane. Fires don't do this.
- Part of the Emergency checklist for smoke or fire involves powering down the airplane completely.
- While the airplane is burning, the autopilot continues to function. The A/P was one of the very first casualties of the SwissAir crash. Autopilots are designed to self-disengage if issues start happening. A medium-sized bump of turbulence is usually enough to cause the A/P to disengage.


That article states that "Yes, the pilots have oxygen masks, but this is a no-no with fire." Bull. Shit. Want to know what the FIRST action item is at my airline when smoke is detected? The person who identifies the smoke will state: "SMOKE. DON MASK." Then the Ox mask donning procedure is to be completed before anything else is done. No checklist will ever direct you to completely power down the airplane while in-flight. If that is done, you lose all fire caution and warning advisory systems, which is exactly what you don't want happening.

If you want a good example of how fires progress in airplanes, take a look at SwissAir 111. Airplanes are complex, and do not suffer fires well. People, if they're provided with oxygen to breathe, will handle fires actually quite well. The SwissAir crew was still trying to fly the airplane even as their plastic checklist was melting into a solid chunk. In case you don't want to look it up, here are some of the facts about 111:

- The time between smoke detection and impact with the surface was 16 minutes. They were at 33,000 feet when the scenario started.
- In that time, the fire became intense enough to trigger a fire detection in the #2 engine, mounted high above the fuselage. Engine detection systems work based on heat detection. So in 16 minutes, they went from "Hey, do you smell something?" to entire length of the airplane completely engulfed in flames.


The rule of thumb with fire in an airplane is simple: GET DOWN. Had the Malaysian crew been on fire, and made a turn toward an airport, they also would have started a pretty severe descent. If fire was the cause, your search radius would be small enough that all you'd need would be a boat and a pair of binoculars.

[Farbin Kaiber]

So, opinions on the practice runways in the Capt.'s sim?

Also, if it were a tire fire, the TPIS (tire pressure monitoring) would have alerted on EICAS, and you tell me you don't feel a flat tire, they would have aborted, or turned back around and emergency landed if they had a underinflated tire.

[BraveUlysses]

I'm going to guess that a tire catching on fire on takeoff is not very likely.