Who agrees with Obama bringing in Muslim refugees?

[CENTURION]

You too just did it, your ethnic name isnt your religious identity.

I understand what you are saying and I agree. and I meant nothing toward any specific group.
humanity falls short in many areas morally, is what I meant.

[faujijatt]

I just saw your post after these guys bumping the thread. First of all religion is not a shit. You and your brave bros didn't fight for me, you fought for power and money in the name of patriotism. Bush government did great job to convince poor folks like you to make great profit out of those lands. I've been in middle east like normal civilian not like you who had massive weapons on and military vehicles to protect yourself. If that makes you real hero, keep feeling that way. I know exactly what some of your brave bros did to civilians in prisons in Iraq. Very disgusting stuff that even animals wouldn't do.



Wow I can't believe that U.S, the country with greatest GDP in the world willing to spend $4.5 billion for refugees. While world's 17th GDP country Turkey had already spent more than $7 billion for these people. That's the difference between you and me, we are willing help them no matter what it takes because we know exactly how they feel when we see them on the streets. By the way there are more than 2 million refugees in Turkey.I see kids and women begging for money everyday on streets or looking garbage cans to find food. I try my best to help them because I know the consequence of not helping them. Have you heard about the kid on the shore ? If you did and still think that way I have nothing to say for you.

Hey aegul44 good thing i read all the posts you put up, i had just saw kickininidans post and then realized holy shi... it's been so many pages.

i cannot type much because i still have pains from shrapnel wounds and it hurts like hell in winter so I'm going to make this quick and dirty. What we did in prisons is deal with evil, and no other way to get information to save other people from this POS if we don't treat them like animals because they ARE. Even God gave his Arch Angels weapons because even the almighty knew you don't fight evil with tolerance and understanding. You don't know nothing about that so you please be quiet. there was no money involved for us, boy. We did it for our country. we did to for our brothers and sisters back home and there. we volunteered for service so that ppl like you will not be drafted. All i can say is, people like you should be on FBIs watch list. because A) you hate the western countries B) you hate our troops C) you hate Israel who have been our ally for decades in that region D) you are selling us a conspiracy theory and propaganda E) you are a potential Jihadist because of your bleeding heart
F) you got a lot of shit to say about AMERICA, holy shit... why the hell are you still here?

Every seasoned veteran were wondering what the future had in store for us after having been operating at an unrelenting tempo for over a decade. No one was naive to the fact that there was plenty of work around the world which WE (the western Nations) could be involved in, but it was the convincing of our government - who would in turn need to convince the public - to commit us to those regions which we thought was going to be problematic. I'm sure that a lot of people who became war weary in the 14 years which has passed since 9/11 have now been poignantly reminded of the perverted ideology that we have been fighting every day since September 2001 so yeah, I don't see Turkey or Palestine doing that shit do you?

It hasn't gone away and history supports the fact that it never will. Our ideals of freedom and democracy do not translate into their primitive way of thinking, nor will they ever. Trying to force a square peg into a round hole will never work. We should stop being apologetic for the fact that western civilization has the most advanced and strongest nations in the world. We need to focus on making our identities great again without feelings of remorse or guilt attached to our achievements and conquests. We must not forget that violence is sometimes the only answer and that it is the only language that these cowards comprehend 🇦🇺🇺🇸🇬🇧🇨🇦🇳🇿

God Bless America and its allies. I don't give a fuck what people will think about me after this post. you got a problem with my country and her troops and her people, you got a problem with me. OVER AND MOTHER FUCKING OUT. (Edited-thanks Centurion and the guy on my PM)

[CENTURION]

Hey aegul44 good thing i read all the posts you put up, i had just saw kickininidans post and then realized holy shi... it's been so many pages.

i cannot type much because i still have pains from shrapnel wounds and it hurts like hell in winter so I'm going to make this quick and dirty. What we did in prisons is deal with evil, and no other way to get information to save other people from this POS if we don't treat them like animals because they ARE. Even God gave his Arch Angels weapons because even the almighty knew you don't fight evil with tolerance and understanding. You don't know nothing about that so you please be quiet. there was no money involved for us, boy. We did it for our country. we did to for our brothers and sisters back home and there. we volunteered for service so that ppl like you will not be drafted. All i can say is, people like you should be on FBIs watch list. because A) you hate the western countries B) you hate our troops C) you hate Israel who have been our ally for decades in that region D) you are selling us a conspiracy theory and propaganda E) you are a potential Jihadist because of your bleeding heart
F) you got a lot of shit to say about AMERICA, holy shit... why the hell are you still here?

Every seasoned veteran were wondering what the future had in store for us after having been operating at an unrelenting tempo for over a decade. No one was naive to the fact that there was plenty of work around the world which WE (the western Nations) could be involved in, but it was the convincing of our government - who would in turn need to convince the public - to commit us to those regions which we thought was going to be problematic. I'm sure that a lot of people who became war weary in the 14 years which has passed since 9/11 have now been poignantly reminded of the perverted ideology that we have been fighting every day since September 2001 so yeah, I don't see Turkey or Palestine doing that shit do you?

It hasn't gone away and history supports the fact that it never will. Our ideals of freedom and democracy do not translate into their primitive way of thinking, nor will they ever. Trying to force a square peg into a round hole will never work. We should stop being apologetic for the fact that western civilization has the most advanced and strongest nations in the world. We need to focus on making our identities great again without feelings of remorse or guilt attached to our achievements and conquests. We must not forget that violence is sometimes the only answer and that it is the only language that these cowards comprehend 🇦🇺🇺🇸🇬🇧🇨🇦🇳🇿

God Bless America and its allies. I don't give a fuck what people will think about me after this post. you got a problem with my country and her troops and her people, you got a problem with me.

Shoulda ended it with ROGER FUCKING THAT, OVER AND OUT.
I sympathize with this statement. deeply.

[marshallnoise]

Shoulda ended it with ROGER FUCKING THAT, OVER AND OUT.
I sympathize with this statement. deeply.

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[mrsleeve]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/03...ww.google.com/

Highly doubt they are Christians boys. One suspect has been identified as Syed Farook... well, well. Muslim as all hell.

1st thanks and I will have to say I agree whole heartedly with ya. Now on to more fun facts such as "recently traveled" to Saudi Arabia and returned with a woman that authorities cant seem to figure out where she was born or where she has been living

Late Wednesday night, San Bernardino police Chief Jarrod Burguan identified the people killed in the gun battle with police as Syed Rizwan Farook, a 28-year-old American citizen, and 27-year-old Tashfeen Malik. Police did not know where Malik was born or where she had lived. ........................

............... Co-workers described Farook as quiet and polite, and said he had no obvious grudges with anyone in the office. The 28-year-old had recently traveled to Saudi Arabia and returned with a woman he met online

I like this, POTUS takes every opertunity and wastes no time to talk about gun control with little respect to those involved and jumps right too it while the 1st news is being broken. How about we check out the people coming into the fucking country a little bit.....

The president was being interviewed by CBS on Wednesday morning when news of the attack broke, and said the repeated occurrence of mass shootings shows the need for stricter gun laws in the U.S.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingnews/one-suspect-identified-police-kill-man-and-woman-connected-to-san-bernardino-mass-shooting/ar-AAfWxUk?ocid=ansmsnnews11

[cale]

Glad to see you missed the mark completely.

I was pointing to the fact that everyone is racist and thinks middle eastern name = dirty radical Muslim. Not defending a radical iseallogist who we don't even know about yet.

And you miss our mark entirely, which I think puts my response spot on as it highlights your ultra liberal attitude. You're quick to defend everyone and scream racism. While in reality, all I'm doing is saying lets take a step back and analyze the situation properly. Lets not fall prey to the downfall of inviting in tens of thousands of refugee's who haven't been properly screened, lets take the right amount of time to survey these people and the situation and put our interests are priority #1.

As for racism, these are refugees fleeing war zones where the combatants have claimed and successfully been able to blend in with them while making it to other countries. Those are the facts of the situation, and that's racism? Go check your definitions, because you dun goofed.

And this recent shooter? If you really need to have it spelled out for you that multiple Muslim men who go on a shooting rampage have done so in the name of their faith, then I want to be prescribed with the same level of denial/optimism pills you have. Life must be easy when you give everyone, including mass murderers the benefit of the doubt. That's for courts to decide, I can confidently say they're pieces of shit. I can also as a rational thinking person evaluate their actions and compare them to recent events around the world and put two and two together.

[faujijatt]

And you miss our mark entirely, which I think puts my response spot on as it highlights your ultra liberal attitude. You're quick to defend everyone and scream racism. While in reality, all I'm doing is saying lets take a step back and analyze the situation properly. Lets not fall prey to the downfall of inviting in tens of thousands of refugee's who haven't been properly screened, lets take the right amount of time to survey these people and the situation and put our interests are priority #1.

As for racism, these are refugees fleeing war zones where the combatants have claimed and successfully been able to blend in with them while making it to other countries. Those are the facts of the situation, and that's racism? Go check your definitions, because you dun goofed.

And this recent shooter? If you really need to have it spelled out for you that multiple Muslim men who go on a shooting rampage have done so in the name of their faith, then I want to be prescribed with the same level of denial/optimism pills you have. Life must be easy when you give everyone, including mass murderers the benefit of the doubt. That's for courts to decide, I can confidently say they're pieces of shit. I can also as a rational thinking person evaluate their actions and compare them to recent events around the world and put two and two together.

Very well said cale, I agree whole heartedly with you. You are right, there is no way of screening them coming in, the Head of FBI or someone confirmed that and said something in the lines of there's no way of determining who is good or bad of the refugees. So yeah, protecting our interest and our country is and should be our #1 priority.

@Mr.sleeve- POTUS is pro-Muslim, and forgive me if I'm wrong, i think he is Muslim by evidence presented all around. Obviously he is not going to bring up Muslim terrorism, he is love tapping ISIS with shelling here and there and somehow IS escapes always and keep coming back stronger. Instead he Wants to disarm all Americans and have unbelievable gun control so we will be easier to be obliterated by Iran and their nukes and by other radical terrorists and their FUCKING JIHAD. And I hope he doesn't veto or exec order some shit order of confiscating firearms from citizens, if that's even possible. Hope not.


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[Wschnitz]

And you miss our mark entirely, which I think puts my response spot on as it highlights your ultra liberal attitude.

Not judging someone as a dirty muslim terrorist just cause their name is eastern is ultra liberal?

Now that they have info that he traveled to Saudi Arabia (our best buds) and probably learned extremist views there I agree with you, But judging someone by their name is straight up ridiculous. Without knowing details he could have been anyone.

I have to admit I didnt know the details besides his name from reddit, because I had more important things to do then read up on Americas weekly shooting... I hate that this is basically a thing now because of the media. This situation is different obviously, but other then that they broadcast shootings/domestic terrorism like its a fucking nightly TV show.

[mrsleeve]

hate that this is basically a thing now because of the media. This situation is different obviously, but other then that they broadcast shootings/domestic terrorism like its a fucking nightly TV show.

On this we agree, this shit will stop as soon as we stop making 15 min celebrities out of them and giving them the recognition they think they deserve and crave. But look at all the stories on and "opinion" peices all over just the LA-Times on this, everything from where and how they bought/got the firearms, to a real time updated article, to Anti-Firearm opinion/propaganda pieces posing as news. So that 15 min thing is not going away, and I put a lot of the fault on much of this shit on the media. Yet the times barley mentions the Islamic connection and in all the shit I read on there last night, never come out and say either of them are of the Islamic persuasion yet the BIL is holding news conferences at the Local Council for Islamic Relations center ummmm DURRRR..

[Wschnitz]

I also like how they call for anti-encryption laws after these attacks happen, only to find the baddies used plain text communication.

[Northern]

i think he is Muslim by evidence presented all around.

Further proof that people will believe anything lmao.

I hope that traveling to Saudi Arabia doesn't automatically brand you a terrorist, but for the money the contracting pays over there, I don't know if I really care.

[Obama] Wants to disarm all Americans and have unbelievable gun control so we will be easier to be obliterated by Iran and their nukes and by other radical terrorists and their FUCKING JIHAD. And I hope he doesn't veto or exec order some shit order of confiscating firearms from citizens, if that's even possible.

If we could at least acknowledge that there's a huge fucking problem with gun violence that's typically carried out with assault weapons, that'd be great.

Serously, if people could store their shit properly, or receive some sort of education (without stigma) about mental health so their first response isn't to go shoot up a school full of kids, that would be perfect. Unfortunately that hasn't been working, so from an outside perspective, it is high time someone pulled the proverbial thumb out of their ass and did something about these mass shootings. And for the record, the "murica' ah need mah gunz" isn't an argument. I'm not going to pretend that I know anything about firearms laws around the world, but I don't know of any other "First World" country that has nearly as lax regulation as the US, and gun violence statistics US vs Canada, UK, Europe, Japan, Russia, etc. all support that lack of any sort of real gun laws is detrimental to society.

I know you all know this, and some don't care because of the "ah need mah gunz" argument, but whatever. I'm just sick of seeing you guys blow each other apart on the news every night.

[mrsleeve]

Further proof that people will believe anything lmao.

I hope that traveling to Saudi Arabia doesn't automatically brand you a terrorist, but for the money the contracting pays over there, I don't know if I really care.

Its not so much the travel as it is the lack of documentation of the accomplice you return with...

If we could at least acknowledge that there's a huge fucking problem with gun violence that's typically carried out with assault weapons, that'd be great.

Not to derail this anymore than it already has been, BUT NO ASSAULT WEAPONS HAVE EVER BEEN USED IN A "MASS SHOOTING" IN THE USA since the 1930's gangster era. Pairs a couple weeks back YES..... ANYWHERE IN THE USA NO....... and IIRC a NJ Cop using a department owned weapon to shoot his estranged wife in the early 90s is the ONLY assault weapon to be used in a crime since the GCA was put in place in 1936. Just because its black and looks like a "Navy Seal gun" does not an assault weapon make.

Serously, if people could store their shit properly, or receive some sort of education (without stigma) about mental health so their first response isn't to go shoot up a school full of kids, that would be perfect. Unfortunately that hasn't been working, so from an outside perspective, it is high time someone pulled the proverbial thumb out of their ass and did something about these mass shootings.

So who watches the watchers?????? And what stops an " activist therapist" from doing this shit more often.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/7th-circuit-upholds-warrantless-entry-seizure-of-gun-rights-activist-b99269120z1-259087731.html

This very situation was laughed off as an impossibility by our very own CorvallisBMW in a past gun rights debate. Short time period latter, BANG happens and the UP FUCKING HELD by the 7th circuit..

What good is going to seek treatment, if you cant be honest and open and have to watch what you say for fear of having your door kicked in, your property seized and withheld with out any compensation, committed against your will, and have your rights revoked permanently a few hours after you leave that appointment..... Then what do you think constitutes a rights denying mental health deficiency??? Depression is a mental illness, and depressed people shoot them selves. Millions in this country (and many in yours) are on anti depressants er-go should all those people be forced to surrender their rights and property. How about those that were once treated for a bout of depression when they were young or a decade ago, should those people have to surrender as well. What your advocating for is a VERY SLIPPERY GOD DAMMED SLOPE, and not to mention far easier to "regulate" with . What if my wife is seeking treatment for something, since I have firearms in the house do I have surrender my rights and property, of if we have an autistic child or a elderly parent moves in so that we can take care of them but they have dementia. Again all "mental health" conditions that since they live with me............

And for the record, the "murica' ah need mah gunz" isn't an argument. I'm not going to pretend that I know anything about firearms laws around the world, but I don't know of any other "First World" country that has nearly as lax regulation as the US, and gun violence statistics US vs Canada, UK, Europe, Japan, Russia, etc. all support that lack of any sort of real gun laws is detrimental to society.

I know you all know this, and some don't care because of the "ah need mah gunz" argument, but whatever. I'm just sick of seeing you guys blow each other apart on the news every night.

Yes it is good enough, that the right to defend ones self is a protected where in most "1st world" nations now its NOT. In most places its call the constabulary and hope they get there in time to help......

Its only on the news every night because thats what sells, and the media has a field day with it all. In the reality of it all other than few outliers gun crime has been on a steep decline in the usa since the mid 90's (oddly enough about the time CCW was getting more popular and more states passing such laws Yeah yeah Corvallis Correlation =/= Causation) though this year thanks idiots shooting up all the places where Police have done stupid shit with guns, by rapeing and pillaging their own neighborhoods this year is going to see a bit of an up tick in those numbers

We are also a country of 330+ million, We have a hard time taking advise from a country with less population than the state of CA. Also look at your own backyard of Toronto has a pretty good gun crime rate with HANDGUNS which if I am not mistaken are HIGHLY REGULATED and all but banned in your country, huh kinda like Assault weapons are here in the USA.

Lastly you lefty liberal types keep telling us not take the actions of fraction of a fraction of a percent of Muslims to judge the whole and not make the rest of them suffer consequences for those actions . Why can you not apply this same line of thinking to those of us that own firearms?????

[King Mufasa]

the Muslim community in California come out today to condemn these acts of terror and to tell the people that their fate is against such acts of violence..

I was told by a ex Marine from the Bush administration era that Bush knew that such things as ISIS would happen if they KILL Osama Binlodin. He also said Bush warned them NOT to kill him. I think maybe this is the reason Bush wanted Saddam Hussan to be tried at the International Tribunal of Justice in The Hague and not America..

[faujijatt]

[faujijatt]

@Northern

I think [Obama] is a Muslim with evidence presented all around. As much as I don't want to believe that our commander in chief is a symphatizer or anything of that nature, some stuff cannot be ignored, he has done some things right, I give him that much, but his nuclear deal with Iran ,Syrian refugees matter and ISIS issues leave me wondering, wtf is he doing!?

https://youtu.be/tCAffMSWSzY

All i want for our nation is this -

Somehow there's to be reasonable gun control or fucking arm everyone legal, clean and clear so when shit like this hits the fan, some one can protect themselves and the peeps around them.