Hillary Sucks.

[gwb72tii]

First off, anyone who openly and honestly discusses, identifies and attempts to solve a problem with this nation is a real patriot.

He seems to be be saying that it's a segment of the population that's the problem. What he is not saying is that black people as a whole are an issue.

He is also saying that personal responsibility is hugely important and does not excuse actions that are often explained away by socioeconomic group, ethnicity, or location.

Further, he is explaining that to solve the problem we have to go after the operant conditioning that makes it acceptable to be one of that subset of society that is responsible for so much of the crime, violence and damage to society, be they white or black. He is also urging the white community to understand the difference between a normal black person and a thug, while not discounting the community as a whole.

Finally, he is urging the black community to reject the example of thug as normal/acceptable/positive, and he invites us all to openly and honestly discuss the issues of race, crime and responsibility.

It should be said that what he said, although centered in the black community undoubtedly is to be applied to all ethnic groups.

Good video, although it doesn't prove the point that I believe you wanted to make. All of the above does not mean that Trump is not a racist.

Nope, just haven't seen one thing showing me trump is racist. Nando and others would brand him as racist if the video was trump talking, and that is in fact the point. Pointing out rapists, thugs and murderers were Mexican and immigrated illegally is now racist altho trump speaks the truth. He did not brand all illegals as rapists etc.
and since when do we as a people allow a president to subvert the law to further his political goals? Illegal immigration and then amnesty is a Democratic Party strategy to expand a democrat permanent majority.
Thankfully some are seeing thru the buulshit, like the man in the video, and crying foul.
And thankfully demographic studies show millennials being much more conservative than the two generations before them.

[nando]

Uh, maybe by bribing a state attourney not to investigate his sham university?

[gwb72tii]

QFT. I didn't agree with all of his policies (especially the spendy ones), but at least I could look the man in the eye should I ever have the opportunity.

Both our current major party choices are liars, criminals, and unqualified to be president. Hillary will win because she is a woman... oh, and because she is running against the worst candidate the GOP could have possibly fielded.

Please provide evidence trump is a criminal.
Btw Hillary is sinking like a rock.

[roguetoaster]

If trump is a racist, what is this gentleman?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/QwCCj8Dx-gk

First off, anyone who openly and honestly discusses, identifies and attempts to solve a problem with this nation is a real patriot.

He seems to be be saying that it's a segment of the population that's the problem. What he is not saying is that black people as a whole are an issue.

He is also saying that personal responsibility is hugely important and does not excuse actions that are often explained away by socioeconomic group, ethnicity, or location.

Further, he is explaining that to solve the problem we have to go after the operant conditioning that makes it acceptable to be one of that subset of society that is responsible for so much of the crime, violence and damage to society, be they white or black. He is also urging the white community to understand the difference between a normal black person and a thug, while not discounting the community as a whole.

Finally, he is urging the black community to reject the example of thug as normal/acceptable/positive, and he invites us all to openly and honestly discuss the issues of race, crime and responsibility.

It should be said that what he said, although centered in the black community undoubtedly is to be applied to all ethnic groups.

Good video, although it doesn't prove the point that I believe you wanted to make. All of the above does not mean that Trump is not a racist.

[Schnitzer318is]

I would have honestly rather it had been Sanders as the nominee - it would probably have been a landslide. Now we're all on edge.

QFT. I didn't agree with all of his policies (especially the spendy ones), but at least I could look the man in the eye should I ever have the opportunity.

Both our current major party choices are liars, criminals, and unqualified to be president. Hillary will win because she is a woman... oh, and because she is running against the worst candidate the GOP could have possibly fielded.

[nando]

I don't know (not in the position to watch a video), what does it have to do with Trump? If somebody else says/does something stupid, racist, xenophobic doesn't mean that doesn't describe Trump to a T.

If I am a Hillary supporter, so what? It's the hand we were dealt with. I would have honestly rather it had been Sanders as the nominee - it would probably have been a landslide. Now we're all on edge.

[gwb72tii]

If trump is a racist, what is this gentleman?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/QwCCj8Dx-gk

[Wschnitz]

So nando are you basically a hillary supporter now?

[nando]

"perceived to be" ???
seriously, you can't admit she's completely to the core untrustworthy?

clinton makes Nixon (and Trump) look like a rank amateur

the right wing outrage machine has been trying to pin them down for years. If they were really as "guilty" as you say, what was the crime? where are the charges?

her tendency towards vague secrecy has ruined her trustworthiness and that is her own fault. Doesn't mean that a politically motivated "investigation" that was meant to damage her campaign isn't mostly BS.

[roguetoaster]

She's a calculating untrustworthy scumbag that believes she can operate outside the law, and does apparently.

This could easily apply to the vast majority of politicians and many of the elite of this country (which is where Trump falls). So, you're trying to say that you're not voting for anyone?

[gwb72tii]

"perceived to be" ???
seriously, you can't admit she's completely to the core untrustworthy?

clinton makes Nixon (and Trump) look like a rank amateur

[nando]

I'm not burying my head in the sand. I pointed them out as real concerns (even if, after all this time and millions of wasted taxpayer dollars "investigating", they still basically have nothing) - where the health thing is so obviously just made up BS.

I also have concerns voting for a blatant racist, who btw, is also just as big of a liar as Clinton is perceived to be. I have my reasons - you have yours.

[gwb72tii]

The "health issues" are 100% manufactured by the extreme right. You're a fool if you take their stories at face value.

I understand the anger about the emails and the stupidity over the personal server. I draw the line at idiotic conspiracies made up by demagogues.

so this is where HRC supporters justify voting for her by sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring what she has done

if you think it was just stupidity that had her keep emails on a private email server you don't give her enough credit. and btw if she is that stupid she's unqualified to be POTUS

the email server scheme was set up to avoid FOIA requests and avoid any scrutiny between the relationship of her as Sec of State and her foundation pay to play. she could forensically delete email at will without any oversight, which we now know she did. She's a calculating untrustworthy scumbag that believes she can operate outside the law, and does apparently. None of what she does/did is stupidity, it's planned out probably with her husband the rapist.

[Schnitzer318is]

You ever cough for four minutes?

Yes, and I'm not old by any means. Bronchitis and pneumonia are bitches.

Frankly, if they both released their records of all types, debated in an open and unbiased forum we might then learn a little bit about who each of them are now.

They both suck for lots of reasons. But health is the dumbest thing I've heard as a party position to the opposition. Talk about grasping at straws. Stick to the emails, Clinton foundation, etc. Don't make yourselves look like fools (Or tin-foil hat wearing fools as Nando put it), though the right has been getting very good at that for the better part of a decade.

[roguetoaster]

Would you have HRC babysit for you? Trust her to drive? Rely on her to help you out?

If you think her health, the e-mails, the scandals, the perjury, the clinton foundation money laundering and pay to play scheme, benghazi,... are stuff of aliens and tom foolery and made up... I cannot imagine a person more out of touch with reality.

Really, trust her to drive? Do you trust random stranger person next to you to drive safely? Would you rely on anyone you don't know to help you out?

She may not be the healthiest person in the country, and it can be fairly said that at times she looks unhealthy, but that doesn't disqualify her from seeking or being elected to office. Further, it's "issues" like these that make a VP choice so vital. After all, Trump eats like a college freshman, probably exercises very little, and is certainly fat (but no WH Taft). Again, this does not disqualify him from the office.

However, I would argue that both are out of touch with the nation as a whole (hard to say about reality as that can be argued to be a personal perception). Of course, this tends to be true of all presidential candidates as they don't so much live life in the run up to, and on the campaign, as get herded around like cattle while being fed on the sometimes dubious information of their subordinates.

Frankly, if they both released their records of all types, debated in an open and unbiased forum we might then learn a little bit about who each of them are now.