Trump Thread 2.0

[MrBurgundy]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention my experience at CHOP, or what was left of it by the time I got there on the 1st of July.

Obviously, it was dismantled that morning, but when I went there at dusk it was pretty much what I expected.. Which was every business boarded up and tagged to holy hell. There were a few people camping at super small grassy areas talking about what went down that day and how they're upset.

Residents where apparently handing out waters, flowers and showing other forms of kind gestures to the police and community members who helped take back and clean up the mess.

It looked like, if you're from LA, the homeless belt that separated the Arts District from Downtown. Total shit hole

Capitol Hill was a nice hip spot before and now it looks like a barren wasteland. What a shame.

Those of you who were advocating that it wasn't like how it was described on TV, or at least when you said FOX new's version was far from the truth, you are wrong, very wrong It was pretty close to that judging by what was left and all the killings and other violent crimes that took place there.

My friends place was so close that they were hearing all the gunshots. When I went out to a few bars in West Seattle, it was pretty much unanimously frowned upon and everyone is happy it's gone, except the retards that started it and thought they were actually doing something significant lol.

I wonder if durkam is going to take care of their vegetables...

[ZeKahr]

Yes all of the United States’s major left-wing coastal cities are quickly turning into shitholes. NYC, which I live near, was starting already to look like a dump before this whole pandemic broke out with all the trash and homeless people. Now violent crime is spiking up and regressing NYC back into the 1970s. The more inward southern and midwestern cities, barring some exceptions like Minneapolis and Chicago, look more or less okay, but I wouldnm’t be surprised if they resemble NYC/Seattle/SF/LA 10-15 years from now given that Americans (including trump supporters) are starting to embrace left-wing policies.

The US in general is starting to look more like a second-world nation as the years go by and this pandemic and the BLM crap is just speeding up that process.

[marshallnoise]

I am glad to see some people coming out and speaking up against this insanity. I pray more do.

I am constantly blown away that people cannot appreciate where our society is and what it has created in just the past 50 years. BLM, Antifa and the main stream media want to tear down this civilization that afforded all of us to navel gaze every single day of our lives. This "shithole" society that we have created the machines that allowed me to have robotic surgery at the end of June. 50 years ago, I would be dead from what I went in for. How can you leftists be so fucking ungrateful? It literally makes me sick.

[cale]

Obviously disparities exist and I'm not going to downplay the legacy of segregation. No, I don't believe that a zip code determines future success. It's the people in that zip code, families with common values living together in safe, supportive communities. You've acknowledged the disproportionate number of black kids growing up without two parents but lay no fault with the men who bolt. I'd be interested to know how many single mothers live in these disparaged zip codes because I strongly believe that broken families are the root cause of the social problems the black community has. The data is there. The question has been posed to you a few times now but you're not answering: how are white people causing black men to abandon their families?

You're still only taking a surface level look at this. The question is why are single parent homes so prevalent in black families, what in their communities causes this. To ignore the glaring differences in opportunity over the last century as well as the significant differences in how black men are prosecuted for the same crimes with the same criminal history as other races, is hugely ignorant. This isn't even beginning to account for predominantly black schools receiving less funding and resources.

the main stream media want to tear down this civilization

You're right about that, the mainstream media is doing lots to sow division and push a narrative that causes social decay.

Wonder what the mainest of main stream is....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoy...in-cable-news/

[LowR3V'in]

This "shithole" society that we have created the machines that allowed me to have robotic surgery at the end of June. 50 years ago, I would be dead from what I went in for. How can you leftists be so fucking ungrateful? It literally makes me sick.

penis surgery?

[marshallnoise]

penis surgery?

Haha! No, cut out 2 feet of colon.

[marshallnoise]

You're right about that, the mainstream media is doing lots to sow division and push a narrative that causes social decay.

Wonder what the mainest of main stream is....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoy...in-cable-news/

Right, conformity is what matters to you. Those who do not confirm are the enemy.

Don't you mean the best, most successful and most viewed?

[cale]

Don't you mean the best, most successful and most viewed?

Aka, the epitome of mainstream.

Are you really this daft, or does the "main stream media" moniker only apply to the sources you disagree with?

[marshallnoise]

Aka, the epitome of mainstream.

Are you really this daft, or does the "main stream media" moniker only apply to the sources you disagree with?

Main stream media in conservative minds has never included Fox. They don't repeat the chants and mantras of NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC. So quite literally, the dissenting opinion outlet is the exact opposite of mainstream. It's all about agendas. Not to be confused with popularity. Rush Limbaugh would call them Drive-by Media. Same damned thing.

[cale]

Main stream media in conservative minds has never included Fox. They don't repeat the chants and mantras of NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC. So quite literally, the dissenting opinion outlet is the exact opposite of mainstream. It's all about agendas. Not to be confused with popularity. Rush Limbaugh would call them Drive-by Media. Same damned thing.

mainstream - noun

the principal or dominant course, tendency, or trend:

adjective

belonging to or characteristic of a principal, dominant, or widely accepted group, movement, style, etc.:

You're failing to stick the landing with your mental gymnastics. I realize you're desperately trying to defend Trump daddies overuse of the woe-is-me MSM defense, but parroting a stupid argument doesn't make it any more viable.

[marshallnoise]

mainstream - noun

the principal or dominant course, tendency, or trend:

adjective

belonging to or characteristic of a principal, dominant, or widely accepted group, movement, style, etc.:

You're failing to stick the landing with your mental gymnastics. I realize you're desperately trying to defend Trump daddies overuse of the woe-is-me MSM defense, but parroting a stupid argument doesn't make it any more viable.

Why are you playing word games when you have known for decades that the MSM has never meant what you are implying? Literally no one has ever made your argument, in the history of ever. Talk about stupid. Silly sophist.

[cale]

Word games? I'm not the one trying to rewrite definitions to serve a narrative.

Not only have you butchered the definition of mainstream, you've ignored that mainstream media is actually a term that holds it's own definition.


mainstream media

NOUN

treated as singular or plural the mainstream media

• Traditional or established broadcasting or publishing outlets

https://www.lexico.com/definition/cognitive_dissonance

Your cognitive dissonance is embarrassing.

[phillipj]

I think what Cale was getting at is maybe what we think of as "MSM" should be rethought due to Right's very powerful & popular media presence current day, be it tv, radio or the web. Perhaps Fox News Channel can no longer be considered an "Alternative" media source when it is #1 for 18 years in a row?

How about Sinclair Broadcast group gobbling up all the local stations in the country and having them parrot the same conservative & corporate bias stories? Reaching something over 70% of homes?

https://kinja-vh.akamaihd.net/i/prod...il/master.m3u8

[marshallnoise]

Word games? I'm not the one trying to rewrite definitions to serve a narrative.

Not only have you butchered the definition of mainstream, you've ignored that mainstream media is actually a term that holds it's own definition.


mainstream media

NOUN

treated as singular or plural the mainstream media

• Traditional or established broadcasting or publishing outlets

https://www.lexico.com/definition/cognitive_dissonance

Your cognitive dissonance is embarrassing.

I know you think its embarrassing, but seriously, no one has ever, ever contended that the MSM is anything other than parrots repeating the same narrative over and over across all media outlets.

Your leftist nutjob hero Noam Chomsky defines the MSM like this:
"Noam Chomsky, in an essay titled, “What Makes Mainstream Media Mainstream,” argued that corporate media organizations attempt to “divert” people’s attention from serious matters. “What are the elite media, the agenda-setting ones? The New York Times and CBS, for example. Well, first of all, they are major, very profitable, corporations. Furthermore, most of them are either linked to, or outright owned by, much bigger corporations, like General Electric, Westinghouse, and so on,” wrote Chomsky. “They are way up at the top of the power structure of the private economy which is a very tyrannical structure. Corporations are basically tyrannies, hierarchic, controlled [sic] from above. If you don’t like what they are doing you get out. The major media are just part of that system.”"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/03/14/is-fox-news-part-of-the-mainstream-media-it-depends/?arc404=true

Even the very porous Wikipedia doesn't agree with your definition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_media

Stop being a fucking hack Cale. It is just disgusting.

[marshallnoise]

I think what Cale was getting at is maybe what we think of as "MSM" should be rethought due to Right's very powerful & popular media presence current day, be it tv, radio or the web. Perhaps Fox News Channel can no longer be considered an "Alternative" media source when it is #1 for 18 years in a row?

How about Sinclair Broadcast group gobbling up all the local stations in the country and having them parrot the same conservative & corporate bias stories? Reaching something over 70% of homes?

https://kinja-vh.akamaihd.net/i/prod...il/master.m3u8

Mainstream thought is the meme behind mainstream media, not mainstream as in the largest group. The ability to reach 70% of homes is not the same thing as people tuning in. I know you know the difference.