Let’s talk about Antifa.

[frankenbeemer]

Helps people grow by seeing things they don't agree with.

That's why I don't need Antifa to sanitize my newsfeed.

The ACLU got it right in 1978 when they defended the Nazi's right to march in Skokie, where one out of every six Jewish citizens in the late 1970s was a survivor—or was directly related to a survivor—of the Holocaust. It was a controversial advocacy.

"The notoriety of the case caused some ACLU members to resign, but to many others the case has come to represent the ACLU's unwavering commitment to principle. In fact, many of the laws the ACLU cited to defend the group's right to free speech and assembly were the same laws it had invoked during the Civil Rights era, when Southern cities tried to shut down civil rights marches with similar claims about the violence and disruption the protests would cause."

Where was Antifa then? Should the ACLU be violently attacked for their Nazism?

[cale]

This is something I've never understood, you really can't stand opposing views so much you need to block people? Keep em around, read what they have to say, then decide whether or not their statements have any truth to it.

Helps people grow by seeing things they don't agree with.

I agreed with this for the last 12 years...then I read hoof's posts.

[Powling]

This is something I've never understood, you really can't stand opposing views so much you need to block people? Keep em around, read what they have to say, then decide whether or not their statements have any truth to it.

Helps people grow by seeing things they don't agree with.

To be honest, I'm here to learn about E30's not to hear someone say they think the Nazi's were a victim of a propaganda campaign.

I've asked mods before if there was a way to block complete sections / threads from showing up in the new posts feed but its not an option, so I'm stuck seeing political threads when I'm trying to figure out an issue with my 318.

[Powling]

I agreed with this for the last 12 years...then I read hoof's posts.

Agreed. If someone is posting that "the real Nazi's were from before 1945" I don't feel I need to see any more posts from that person anymore.

[decay]

You have that right, everyone has that right. You don't have the right to outright silence other people. If you want that right then you do not, in any way shape or form, support free speech. How do you still not understand that?

we have the right to peacefully counter-protest and make it clear that messages of hate are not welcome in our locality. that's what we did. how do you still not understand that?

[rturbo 930]

I've asked mods before if there was a way to block complete sections / threads from showing up in the new posts feed but its not an option, so I'm stuck seeing political threads when I'm trying to figure out an issue with my 318.

There is a way to filter your new posts feed, however, the mods don't seem to have that option enabled. Another forum I was on had that feature so I know it can be done with VB. However, it's really not that hard to just not click on the threads. The P+R section here isn't quite that active.

[2mAn]

To be honest, I'm here to learn about E30's not to hear someone say they think the Nazi's were a victim of a propaganda campaign.

I've asked mods before if there was a way to block complete sections / threads from showing up in the new posts feed but its not an option, so I'm stuck seeing political threads when I'm trying to figure out an issue with my 318.

your search for answers about your 318 has led you far, far away from what you are looking for.

this sub-forum clearly isnt the place to hear why M42s suck haha

this is the place to grab your popcorn and watch the people yell at each other

:popcorn:

[Hooffenstein HD]

we have the right to peacefully counter-protest and make it clear that messages of hate are not welcome in our locality. that's what we did. how do you still not understand that?

Because the "messages of hate" is your(leftards) narrative and it's false.

[supermansocks95]

I seriously can't tell if he's serious or not anymore...

[Shock(/\)ave]

You aren't a child, and this isn't a playground where you can forcibly silence another child you don't agree with by punching them in the face without serious consequences.

You need to let others speak, and accept that many other people who aren't at all bad people don't agree with you.

Letting thugs on any side deciding what speech - and ultimately any expressed thought - is allowed and what isn't is an insane concept. You're an extremist if you're dressing up in combat gear. The rest of us have a system of laws we live by to work this stuff out. I don't like the system or the people who run it at all, but it's better than brawling in the streets and accomplishing nothing but destruction of peace and prosperity.

[Shock(/\)ave]

If I think protecting the borders of a country to preserve its identity is important, I'm evil.

If I think I should be allowed to choose what do to with my own money, and not be forced to hand it over to be mismanaged by others, I'm greedy.

If I don't think that multiculturalism is a good idea in my country because I reject the root concept that all cultures are created equal (ask women how equal they are in other countries), I hate other cultures and want my own to dominate the world.

If I accept that our socialist programs are here to stay, and want prevent them from being destroyed by an ever increasing dependant group supported entirely by debt and a fixed and shrinking supporter group, I'm heartless.

The truth is that I want our country and way of life to survive as I watch other countries implode around us. I want to be able to take care of my loved ones now and in the future. I know some cultures are sick and should not be allowed to take over ours, though I think people are free to live as they wish should they really be free to make that choice. I know that at some point we can't keep borrowing money at the rate we have been, and that governments everywhere have spent our future to steal from us today and buy our votes and our silence.

You really can't have a discussion about anything today. I don't think that's an accident. The people in charge from every party are screwing all of us, and we're too busy fighting or ignoring each other to unite to stop them. It's a sad state of affairs.

[decay]

i reiterate (for the nth time): the SF counter-protest i was involved in went down peacefully. i'm getting tired of repeating that.

[lambo]

i reiterate (for the nth time): the SF counter-protest i was involved in went down peacefully. i'm getting tired of repeating that.

Congratulations. You participated peacefully in one instance. Thats a nice anecdote. We’re not talking about the one rally you attended. We’re talking about antifa as a whole, as the thread title suggests. Do you deny that there have been violent acts committed by people who claim to be antifa or act for antifa at other counter protests/rallies?

[decay]

refer back to my comments about black bloc.

yes, you're right, they're not helping the optics.

am i going to apologize for throwing on a jacket in case some nutbar wants to hit me with a homemade truncheon? nope.

[Shock(/\)ave]

am i going to apologize for throwing on a jacket in case some nutbar wants to hit me with a homemade truncheon? nope.

Just staying home isn't an option for you and the other guy with the truncheon? Are either of you really accomplishing anything?