I do think "Neither" or "None of the Above" should be an option. I also think that option would've had the majority of votes in the last election.
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Originally posted by mrsleeve View PostI am very curious about your definition of "spin on socialism " what that might be.....
... People these days are confused, no one knows how to use it, people propagandize and misuse it
Beyond that Donald Trump, who weaponizes that word daily, is an unbelievable hypocrite on "Socialism" given his presidency's own actions1990 BMW 325iC Triple Black Hard Top, Self-Wrenched, Original Owner Family
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Originally posted by phillipj View Post
The prior poster talked about a "viable candidate that will be supported ... by a majority of the voting public against Trump." I was just underscoring that Trump "won" without "a majority of the voting public" - and so it makes the potential matchup in certain states highly critical to truly "winning."
At this point it just depends on what poll you are subscribing too. There are polls that show Trump beating all candidates in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Wisconsin, all battleground states that tipped by small margins for Trump and essentially made him President. There are other polls that show Sanders winning in these same states, or Biden, or Warren. As we all know, the same polls said Hillary would easily win even the night of the election.
Right or wrong, a portion of the population wants nothing to do with Sanders because he lost to Hillary last time and he's been labeled as a radical socialist. How do you reconcile these points so that a majority of the population would support him? I just don't see a way to do that. Do you?
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Originally posted by mbonder View Post
Washington Post Article on Sander's Support: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...pares-his-run/
At this point it just depends on what poll you are subscribing too. There are polls that show Trump beating all candidates in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Wisconsin, all battleground states that tipped by small margins for Trump and essentially made him President. There are other polls that show Sanders winning in these same states, or Biden, or Warren. As we all know, the same polls said Hillary would easily win even the night of the election.
Right or wrong, a portion of the population wants nothing to do with Sanders because he lost to Hillary last time and he's been labeled as a radical socialist. How do you reconcile these points so that a majority of the population would support him? I just don't see a way to do that. Do you?Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
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Originally posted by phillipj View Post
An article like this gets at what I was hitting on: "Socialism" Has Lost All Meaning in American Politics
... People these days are confused, no one knows how to use it, people propagandize and misuse it
Beyond that Donald Trump, who weaponizes that word daily, is an unbelievable hypocrite on "Socialism" given his presidency's own actionsOriginally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
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Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
Agreed. Although I think at this point, his health will be the most under attack. The guy is nearly 80 and just had a heart attack on the campaign trail.
Trump & Biden are also terribly old, with no good health prospects, and when you hear them discuss anything they regularly come off as uninformed or senile ... but, so very importantly [sarcasm], Biden and Trump have: doctored hair, heavy duty tans, make-up, fitted suits, hyper whitened teeth... etc.
It's too easy to look up any given interview with any one of these old men, then ask yourself, who seems more "with it"? I am not worried about a past heart attack as much as if this person adept & lucid.Last edited by phillipj; 12-14-2019, 11:40 AM.1990 BMW 325iC Triple Black Hard Top, Self-Wrenched, Original Owner Family
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Originally posted by phillipj View Post
I'd agree that age (but more accurately appearance) is the biggest Achille's heel here; the collective we & our media all care about looks so much - more than anything, actually.
The guy LITERALLY just had a heart attack. So I'm not sure it's a "the media only cares about looks."Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
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Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
Appearance? Looks? What are you on about?
The guy LITERALLY just had a heart attack. So I'm not sure it's a "the media only cares about looks."
Sort of on-topic, there was a lot of news coverage this week on a rumored 'One Term Pledge' by BidenLast edited by phillipj; 12-14-2019, 11:44 AM.1990 BMW 325iC Triple Black Hard Top, Self-Wrenched, Original Owner Family
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Does anyone think there's any merit to a one term pledge?
On one hand it comes off as sort of weak to me, you are basically admitting that you are not 100% confident you'd be up to the job in 4 years. You also almost begin your presidency as a lame duck.
On the other hand, it's kind of a selfless act, maybe you frame it as putting the country ahead of your own ambition. You are the transitional response/recovery from a truly selfish presidency. IDK...1990 BMW 325iC Triple Black Hard Top, Self-Wrenched, Original Owner Family
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I bet he would do just like the Oklahoma Representative did with his pledge...........completely ignore it and run again.Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
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so whos actually left besides the Senior Citizens (Biden, Bernie and Warren)...
BTW Who the F actually wants Biden in there?... so stupid, nobody wants him. Its a guarantee that he would lose to TrumpSimon
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Originally posted by 2mAn View PostBTW Who the F actually wants Biden in there?
Originally posted by 2mAn View PostIts a guarantee that he would lose to Trump
If Bernie and/or Warren were the nominees they would win.
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