BRZ vs E30

[IRON-E]

Question for all you track guys from California (bay area/socal) - would a 4.10 LSD be better suited to thill and buttonwillow for a stock M20? I'm running a 3.73 LSD now and only stay in 3rd/4th gear, 2nd for turn 11. Might be going to thill on April 28 with NCRC to battle it out with my BRZ buddy again yeeeee =]

Rob, talk to Kevin at JMP, he has ran buttonwillow with his 4.10 LSD/stock m20 and did pretty good times iirc.

[humzak77]

Thanks! I love it

[R3Z3N]

Robbin nice! I look forward to running with you again and you proving that power isn't everything, but driver mostly is ;-)

[robgoesvroom]

What's wrong with cyclone? Don't wanna trail brake? ;) it evens the playing field out for cars with less power, should be in your favor.

None of us are running E30s actually, I am running my e46 330i and we will have some M3s. Also kronus will hopefully be running his e30. So... One of us will be running E30s.

I've seen a couple cars roll on cyclone while I was doing skidpad events - pretty scary. I've ran thill once on the bypass configuration, and would like to see if I can improve my laptimes. After only one trackday, it's my new favorite track because its smooth and high speed! Still waiting to try Laguna and Chuckwalla though

What group are you guys running in? Point by and solo are almost full

[Wh33lhop]

I've seen a couple cars roll on cyclone while I was doing skidpad events - pretty scary. I've ran thill once on the bypass configuration, and would like to see if I can improve my laptimes. After only one trackday, it's my new favorite track because its smooth and high speed! Still waiting to try Laguna and Chuckwalla though

What group are you guys running in? Point by and solo are almost full

A COUPLE cars? Jesus. I was looking forward to 5, maybe I should take it easy.

We were shooting for point-by; I mailed a check. Hopefully it arrives in time.

Anyway, gotta get up early tomorrow: laguna seca time! :)

[defaultName]

Great video! Looks like you were having a blast!

[Xat1cZ]

There's only one way to settle this,

[herbivor]

[303e30]

I think a track prepped e30 with an m50 and good suspension/tires/brakes would be an even match for a track prepped stock motor BRZ. And ill take an s5x swapped e30 over a BRZ/FRS any day of the week.

[mcr_driver]

cost of BRZ ignoring wheels and tires fully kitted out is what 27k?

what does even half of that get you in a e30? At least a well sorted s52 swap. heaven forbid you go and get an s54 swap e30 along with other goodies for 27k...

I would really like to see a real competition between a swapped e30 and a brz.

[mulletman]

I think the differential in performance/dollar ratio is fairly clear.

[knuklehead92]

cost of BRZ ignoring wheels and tires fully kitted out is what 27k?

what does even half of that get you in a e30? At least a well sorted s52 swap. heaven forbid you go and get an s54 swap e30 along with other goodies for 27k...

I would really like to see a real competition between a swapped e30 and a brz.

lol @ s52 or s54.... i would get a ls1 for that money to be honest, i only got a s52 because low miles and a smoking deal you can not believe. but a e30 with s52 would blow it out of the water! imagine with the ls1... power to weight ratio man.

you also have to think about insurance more expensive... and if you dont buy it in full, theres interest. my buddy just picked up a red manual frs out the door for 26k. i smoked him in auto x, smoked him from 0-60 and from 20-80 and from 60-120... and i have a m50nv .... not impressive to be honest. does drive nice but it aint no e30. my friend does have 255 toyo r1rs which are nice sticky tires and i have the same tire in 225 15. i rather have a e30, its something not to flashy, something you wouldn't expect, over engineered, and classy.

[robgoesvroom]

I would like to see videos of a stroked M20/S50/S52 powered E30 chasing an S2000. Who has one of these?

[RobertK]

I would like to see videos of a stroked M20/S50/S52 powered E30 chasing an S2000. Who has one of these?

No videos but I've witnessed it multiple times on the Tail of the Dragon.

S2000 struggles against a 24v swap car going up the mountain toward NC. Coming back from NC its mainly down hill so its a game of chicken pivoting mainly on driver skill.

[matthugie]

I have an s52 e30 and at the one autocross this year I've run against an FRS I beat it by 2+ seconds. S2k on the other hand, no comment....