SoCal General Chat

[JinormusJ]

Oh no doubt, a BA holds much more weight in todays world and puts you ahead of the AA crowd, but if you do it right and know the right places to go to, your AA from a diploma-mil will count for 3 years of school, then you only have to take 1 year of "real" school to finish up your GEs to get accredited and get a BS. We've hit the point in the graph where people are starting to care less about where you went to school and how well you did and more about how many titles you have at the end of your name, your experience in the field, and work ethics: especially if you get a MBA. I got plenty of people to draw on from experience who got screwed over even though they worked hard to get "the top of the class" as a CRT, only to get rejected cause they didn't have an RRT. No one wants LBN's everyone's looking for RN's with bachelors. Then plenty of people who screwed everyone else over cause they went to the crappiest, easiest schools, did all their education online, got an MBA in their field, and now their a leading coordinator/accreditor for some big shot company/hospital. It's all a trend.

Different strokes and philosophies. I'm not judging at all, but I have my own opinions. I've talked to plenty of people who say later, their "messing around" cost them their marriage, kids, sanity, etc. Everything comes with a price these days, and I for one choose not to risk my future and lasting joy with another for two seconds of fun right now with many. It's just not worth it

[Robotin]

in less than two months i will have an AA and BA. i still believe that side by side an employer would take my BA from UCLA more seriously than my AA at El Camino CC for 99% of the jobs i'd be applying for.

why waste time with girls you're not marrying? because it's part of the experience of being young. i have enjoyed myself in college, and i don't consider myself behind just because i'm two years older and $11k in school loans. i'd do it all over again.

swag

[mkcman17]

i kind of feel that a lot of entry 'promotion' jobs require a minimum of a bachelor's. for specific fields this might not be true, but very few people (including myself) have no idea what they want to do at 18, or even 22. for non-technical jobs, i'd say the degree matters less than where it was obtained. good schools still carry the weight to their name and that isn't really changing or depreciating.

[JinormusJ]

Yeah, it took me a while to finally figure out what I want to do.. Almost 20 now, but a heckuva-lot better than 22 hah

The fact of the matter is, the only way to move up is to get a BA, so i totally agree. An AA will LAND you a decent job that you can afford yourself with, but to move on in life, you will need that last year or two of schooling for that BA. The benefits of an AA is that you'd Already be working, and you'd already have your foot in the door. By the time you get you BA, the higher-ups would have no choice but to bend over backwards if you applied for a higher position since you'd be considered an internal hire and have a greater shot of landing the position than someone who is fresh off the books.

I'm looking more into the medical field as of late; and that's where where i get the whole "people don't care where you went to school" idea from. They being to only care about titles and experience because by then, your work portfolio will do more talking than where you went to school 10+ years ago. Medical jobs are already hard and stressful as it is and the workforce is rather scarce, so more hospitals are looking to hire just to hire. A degree from CSULB or CSUF vs UCI wont be that much different; admission and course requirements are generally the same work-load. Only schools that have stringent acceptance policies, are incredibly tough, or are super expensive (ie: UCLA, USC, Berkeley) would land you a job instantly, but then you'd get lumped with making the same figures as someone who did only go to CSULB or CSUF and only had a tougher time finding a job. I do see your point, and I do very much agree with you, but I would have to ask... Would the opportunity cost/fiscal cost/mental stress/emotional stress be worth it? That's something we kinda just have to answer for ourselves

[glnr13]

if you can get the BA get it.

i'm 36 and i went the AA route. got a gig and worked my way up, further than I would guess that most could with just an AA. but i've reached a glass ceiling, no one wants to hire a guy with an AA as Director of anything unless I stick around at my senior level for another 5-7 years.

as far as where it comes from, well, i can say when i hire people or interview newbs i don't give a damn where they came from. most of it is bull anyway.

tldr: a BA will not only help now but down the road if you intend on climbing the corporate ladder and getting to the top.

[IRON-E]

Knowing someone very close, in the medical field., I would have to say that JinormousVajis right on.

[IronmanE30]

Just posted my RS 001's if anyone is interested.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?p=3119935#post3119935

Cheers,

Jim

[mkcman17]

I would have to ask... Would the opportunity cost/fiscal cost/mental stress/emotional stress be worth it? That's something we kinda just have to answer for ourselves

for me, absolutely. the statistics alone show that in most cases a BA will more than pay for itself over time, assuming you don't get stuck in the system. i am however against graduate school in terms of liberal arts. unless you plan to become a teacher or want the self-satisfaction, an MA is pretty much a waste of time. i am planning to go for an MBA though.

school is sometimes stressful and expensive, but i have a lot of fun too. i do agree that CC is the way to go, but i don't think anyone should stop there if allowed the opportunity. GEs are bullshit, so take care of them for $26/unit and transfer to somewhere of your choice. i feel like people that stop after CC will end up kicking themselves for letting the opportunity for a 'real' degree pass by. besides, financial aid hooks me up.

[JinormusJ]

^ so then were on the same page. Internet high five :-P

[mkcman17]

hahahaah i guess so!

[freeride53]

Mkcman, what's your major?

[thebutcher37]

Barista is such a sexy word.

Disturbing when you have Mike and Chris paired with it

I'm offended, but I'll still take it as a compliment. No Fucks given....

Looks good mate.
Dump and flush

dude chris, the car looks SOOOO much better. just a tad lower in the back and she's sitting REAL pretty.

Thanks dudes....I know!!!! I raised the rear when I had the spacers on to prevent rubbing but didn't lower it when I took them off.

[ak-]

Mkcman, what's your major?

Einstein posted it a few pages back.

[reelizmpro]

When I went to El Camino it was $11/unit. I didn't have a plan, I was just taking courses that interested me. After almost 4 years of screwing around I transferred to CSULB and finished my BSEE. Tuition had doubled while I was there so I quit my job and went full time to knock it out. At a minimum, get a bachelors. There are a lot of grads with degrees and certs. Nothing is certain though, make your connections in college and create a network.

[e30trooper]

Ive been out of hs for 8years now and I only took on year of a trade back in 05. However I had to pay up cash. If I was given money for school id go back, but fuck lones and having dept.