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  • mcr_driver
    R3V Elite
    • Mar 2009
    • 4491

    #48046
    Originally posted by dvck
    direct fitment FTMFW
    True story.

    Originally posted by e30trooper
    Cj?


    Originally posted by einstein57
    I can do brinell hardness testing on the adapter hardware if you want to give me the remnants.
    Failure analysis testing? Let me get my lab coat I really do have my old lab coat packed away :rofl: Those courses were the most fun when I was at Bosco.

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    • dvck
      No R3VLimiter
      • Nov 2009
      • 3394

      #48047
      today do i hear?
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      • dvck
        No R3VLimiter
        • Nov 2009
        • 3394

        #48048
        Originally posted by mkcman17
        OOOOOOHHHHHH SHITTTTTTTTT apply some water to that, quick!
        pulled the ointment out

        Hi Mike
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        • mkcman17
          R3V OG
          • Jul 2010
          • 8240

          #48049
          I'm in the midst of a 72 hour work week. I can probably have dean come drop it off with his set tonight.
          1989 325is / 2.7, 274 cam, e30 M3 5-lug
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          • einstein57
            R3V OG
            • Jun 2007
            • 10780

            #48050
            Cool. Then i can pick up the redrilled style 5 centers and drop off omars lips in the morning.


            I'm in a materials testing lab class this semester and need to come up with a final testing project. I was considering testing the strength of different fiberglass weaves.
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            • turge
              R3VLimited
              • Mar 2011
              • 2576

              #48051
              Originally posted by mkcman17
              Ethan an 8380 labs' response to castro's concerns with the design the second time lugs broke; 'I'm not going to continue to speculate what other people who don't do this for a living think.'

              http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...ps72c3a721.jpg
              Looks like I'm going to fill n drill my wheels. Those adapters breaking is sketch.

              Originally posted by einstein57
              I'm in a materials testing lab class this semester and need to come up with a final testing project. I was considering testing the strength of different fiberglass weaves.
              Do it!

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              • mcr_driver
                R3V Elite
                • Mar 2009
                • 4491

                #48052
                Originally posted by einstein57
                Cool. Then i can pick up the redrilled style 5 centers and drop off omars lips in the morning.


                I'm in a materials testing lab class this semester and need to come up with a final testing project. I was considering testing the strength of different fiberglass weaves.
                Could test the shear properties of bolts in applications with toruque pulling in different degree's under heated conditions sort of like adaptors near hot hubs from heavy braking...

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                • einstein57
                  R3V OG
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 10780

                  #48053
                  The hubs don't get anywhere near hot enough to spheroidize the steel in the time frame the adapters seem to be failing.
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                  • mcr_driver
                    R3V Elite
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 4491

                    #48054
                    Originally posted by einstein57
                    The hubs don't get anywhere near hot enough to spheroidize the steel in the time frame the adapters seem to be failing.

                    Playing devils advocate even under extreme track conditions, I'd imaging glowing rotors might/might not be enough to effective alter the heat treatment, but that coupled with the forces on the bolts perhaps. Even further playing the devil's advocate one moderately extreme track session just hot enough to alter the heat treatment could cause a prolonged failure taking months to develop. That would be indicative of an altered crystalline structure and a ductile failure surface. Also are the bolts made of steel or some other metal?

                    Otherwise just remove that variable from my original post and it's still an interesting project.
                    Last edited by mcr_driver; 03-21-2013, 01:54 PM.

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                    • einstein57
                      R3V OG
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 10780

                      #48055
                      Your not properly thinking about heat transfer. Your lug nuts don't glow on the track. Or rotor hats for that matter. Only the parts that are in direct contact with the friction surface.

                      Plus a couple seconds of a somewhat hot temp won't do anything. Temp needs to be within 60% of melting temperature

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                      Graph is for aluminum but you get the idea
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                      • mcr_driver
                        R3V Elite
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4491

                        #48056
                        Originally posted by einstein57
                        Your not properly thinking about heat transfer. Your lug nuts don't glow on the track.
                        True but just for giggles imagine if they did, such ricer status :rofl:

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                        • JFarhanbod
                          R3VLimited
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 2151

                          #48057
                          Has anyone used those ebay camber plates? Decent? Garbage? I'm in the market for some

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                          • mcr_driver
                            R3V Elite
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4491

                            #48058
                            Originally posted by einstein57
                            Your not properly thinking about heat transfer. Your lug nuts don't glow on the track. Or rotor hats for that matter. Only the parts that are in direct contact with the friction surface.

                            Plus a couple seconds of a somewhat hot temp won't do anything. Temp needs to be within 60% of melting temperature

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                            Graph is for aluminum but you get the idea
                            http://aarontan.org/MSE250/Images/Fig11_27.jpg

                            I've seen guys with Alcon/AP brakes get their calipers up to temps over 400-500 degree's with extreme track duty. Granted these are extreme cases I'm not stating you're wrong I'm just reaching for an extreme scenario. All it takes to prove a theory valid is one application where it proves just that.

                            But now we're way off base of the original topic, failed bolts that shouldn't be failing. Mike needs to get you those failed bolts for some forum hilarity and hopefully even a bit of money back to mike. I remember when he told how it failed at castro's and the look of DAFUQ on Chris' face :rofl:

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                            • ak-
                              R3V OG
                              • May 2009
                              • 12422

                              #48059
                              One more exam one more exam one more exam one more.

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                              • thebutcher37
                                R3VLimited
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 2877

                                #48060
                                Originally posted by ak-
                                One more exam one more exam one more exam one more.
                                Hey how many more exams you got left bro?


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