Colorado general chat...

[Roland H]

Inflammatory statement is inflammatory.

Take a class or do some research on energy sources, especially regarding the levelized cost of different sources (coal, nuclear, wind) with and without government subsidies. That is the $/kWh for the plant in current year money that takes into account maintenance cost, capital cost, investor payback, salvage cost, annualized per year, and divided by expected yearly energy output. They all are more or less the same when you factor plant lifespan and expected energy output into account. Research and look into the topics, and you'll have more informed and believable opinions. Things are vastly more complex than simply blaming everything you find disagreeable on the other guy.

As for ticket cost increasing with increasing electricity cost..... correlation does not prove causation. Just because two things increase does not mean they are related in the slightest. The far more likely reason is that the population of Colorado has increased dramatically in the last decade, mostly due to an influx of people from California and Texas. More people = more money to spend = more demand for the same land, thus ticket price increases to prevent slope overcrowding and to rob us blind.

Okay, so the electricity cost was a stretch. But your argument supports mine on the water issue.

But yes, demand is another key issue here.

[Roland H]

inflation is still the biggest problem here, and you really can't blame that on the contemporary conservatives.

[Bimmerman325i]

inflation is still the biggest problem here, and you really can't blame that on the contemporary conservatives.

....I'm not trying to. The ticket price has increased much more than just inflation.

[Bimmerman325i]

And now for something completely different and politics free.





Best. Car. Of. All. Time.

Most winningest touring car of all time, and now a winning rally car.

The E30 M3 is truly God's Chariot.

[iamsam]

...so the E30 M3 is better than ZOMGZ SUBIE TWIN SCREW





;)

[Bimmerman325i]

Ya, pretty much.

[iamsam]

you should pick up an E30 M3 for your graduation car!

[Bimmerman325i]

I don't need three cars.

[Roland H]

....I'm not trying to. The ticket price has increased much more than just inflation.

A single day lift ticket for wolf creek pass was $8.10 back in 1975.

Now they are $52.

$8.10 in 1975 is about the same as $33.70 today (2010). Which means that inflation accounts for 58% of the increase of the ticket price if my math is correct. Not the sole reason, but definitely the majority of the reason.

[Bimmerman325i]

1997 Vail ticket price: $52 ($70.86 in 2010 dollars, sources: http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ and http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/...-ticket-prices)
2010-2011 Vail regular season ticket price: $94-99 depending on the month (source: http://www.vail.com/plan-your-trip/l...-explorer.aspx)

So yes, inflation does account for a good deal of the price increase. That's not really important though, since inflation has affected the prices of everything. The price has obviously increased way faster than inflation alone. Inflation accounts for less than half of the price increase.

[iamsam]

....so i painted my 318is....

[Roland H]

yep. Rising costs in water, fuel, electricity and other things are more than enough to justify the other 42% of the spectrum though. Water especially.

[Roland H]

....so i painted my 318is....

which juan?

[iamsam]

which juan?

the red one. Did the fender and bumper. Turned out all right, i must say. But I still have to wet sand and buff.

[Roland H]

resorts are also investing more and more money into snowmaking equipment which is $$$$

and other infrastructure which is more $$$

and more snowmaking equipment = more water used, and water prices are currently going up very fast.