^ it's well-documented that the 153 gets slightly better performance than the 173 and later chips. But I've never head of it being more economical as well. Maybe that's because of the chip you're running, Elva? It would be interesting to compare a stock 153. I have a stock 153 and I average around 16-18 mpg (all city.. goes up to 23 ish hwy with my 4.10 gears at 70-75mph). And I would consider my driving habits relaxed.
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I think you're misunderstanding my point. The difference in dyno power is negligible I'm sure; what matters is how the car behaves. 153 ECUs use less fuel at small throttle openings and are thus more fuel-efficient. They also shut the injectors off until 1,000rpm when decelerating in gear, allowing for longer periods of zero-fuel coasting. By comparison, late ECUs need more throttle and more fuel to maintain, say 50mph in fifth on level ground, and the injectors only shut off until 1,500rpm. Those are two examples of what I'm talking about. This is more "butt dyno" territory, but the car with 153 feels more... eager, I guess the word would be.Interested in vintage cars? Ever thought about racing one? Info, photos, videos, and more can be found at www.michaelsvintageracing.com!
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Originally posted by ELVA164 View PostI think you're misunderstanding my point. The difference in dyno power is negligible I'm sure; what matters is how the car behaves. 153 ECUs use less fuel at small throttle openings and are thus more fuel-efficient. They also shut the injectors off until 1,000rpm when decelerating in gear, allowing for longer periods of zero-fuel coasting. By comparison, late ECUs need more throttle and more fuel to maintain, say 50mph in fifth on level ground, and the injectors only shut off until 1,500rpm. Those are two examples of what I'm talking about. This is more "butt dyno" territory, but the car with 153 feels more... eager, I guess the word would be.
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Stock ecu tunes, meh, if you want fast you go aftermarket anyway.
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Originally posted by cat97628 View PostThe one you own
This! I love my '86 Eta. She was pretty well looked after and has been a great car over the last 3+ years.Estoguy
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Originally posted by slammin.e28 View PostI won't discuss because it should be painfully obvious why.
please...'esplain
Originally posted by ELVA164 View PostThey also shut the injectors off until 1,000rpm when decelerating in gear, allowing for longer periods of zero-fuel coasting.
Pretty sure all cars do this...not just those with 153 ECU'sLast edited by Stanley Rockafella; 03-04-2016, 12:11 PM.If it's got tits or tires, it's gonna cost ya!
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Originally posted by Stanley Rockafella View Post
please...'esplain
FWIW my e30 shows 0 fuel being used when decelerating in gear too (I'm running the 173 as well)
Pretty sure all cars do this...not just those with 153 ECU's
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Originally posted by nando View Postthe only reason any of that matters is if it was stock and relatively new. there's nothing really great about 30 year old, pitted & cracked ellipsoids..
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Originally posted by nando View Postthat has nothing to do with specific hardware, even if it were true (and it isn't). the differences are pretty small in the tunes - a little bit more ignition advance, basically. I'm not sure how you think the late ECUs would need more fuel to run an identical engine..
Originally posted by Stanley Rockafella View PostFWIW my e30 shows 0 fuel being used when decelerating in gear too (I'm running the 173 as well)
Pretty sure all cars do this...not just those with 153 ECU'sInterested in vintage cars? Ever thought about racing one? Info, photos, videos, and more can be found at www.michaelsvintageracing.com!
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Originally posted by 88BlackS-ETA View Post1988 - 2.7l engine and the diving boards that arent sticking out to far like early models.No E30 ClubOriginally posted by MrBurgundyAnyways, mustangs are gay and mini vans are faster than your car, you just have to deal with that.
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Originally posted by ClayW View Post1991
I've always been a fan of the latest year of a run. The manufacturer usually figured everything out by then
I'm not sure if the same holds true to the automotive industry, where the higher performers were migrated over to e36 development and production.
and I'm strictly talking from an assembly perspective here, from an engineering standpoint, I would assume that most defect would've been sorted by this point.Bronzit beige 1986 325es
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