NEVER send money as a gift

[EürOV3R]

I recently agreed to pay more than the going rate for a set of E38 style 5s from travish325. Considering we're both USAF members and from talking with him he sounded like a stand up guy. He asked me to send him the money as a gift so he wouldn't get hit with the fees and I stupidly agreed, with conditions. I asked that the wheels be packaged extra well and that they be insured, to avoid problems. Well of course, 3 out of 4 wheels made it fine, but the 4th one has a decent bend in it right on the lip where someone dropped it. The wheels were packed in a tight and thin layer of cardboard, no "extra" anything like I had asked for. Now i'll be paying an extra fee on top to have this wheel repaired and/or chasing my tail across town trying to get UPS to pay a claim.

[FLG]

Has he tried to make good? No insurance?

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[der affe]

It is the military, if he does nothing, you could go to his CO.

[EürOV3R]

This post is enough for me. Karma works.

[LowR3V'in]

If you payed let's say $300
fees would be 9 bux so just make it $309.

You're right unless it's someone really trusted don't gift. :(
Fees are so small it's worth paying.

[bmwm42]

i used to bitch about the fee now i require its good insure for both the seller and buyer, charge backs dont care about gifting

[ZoomZoomBoom]

It's the cost of having some kind of protection when buying from people you don't know. Always use normal buy/sell protocols on Paypal unless you absolutely know and trust the other person, and even then you might not want to gift. Another thing the forum can implement to protect buyers is to require seller compliance pics that have a picture of each item or groups of items up for sale with a piece of paper with the seller's user name, date, and forum name. This way the buyer knows the person actually has the item and the item is in the shape the seller claims. It's up to the buyer to ask the seller for and potentially pay for insurance.

I know I'm a n00b here but these are the buy/sell requirements on the many auto forums that I've been a longtime member of, including a couple of which I moderate. They make things a little more difficult for the seller, but it cuts way back on the bullshit. :)

[reelizmpro]

I've been ripped off before by someone using Paypal and never recovered the funds. I was out $160 and this was about 7-8 years ago. Not sure how they keep people from closing their accounts. They get payment immediately, then immediately transfer it into their bank account, then stall the buyer for weeks while closing their Paypal account...and finally stop responding to emails. This is particularly risky with people overseas as it may take close to a month for an item to get shipped over. Sound familiar to anyone?

[ZoomZoomBoom]

I've been ripped off before by someone using Paypal and never recovered the funds. I was out $160 and this was about 7-8 years ago. Not sure how they keep people from closing their accounts. They get payment immediately, then immediately transfer it into their bank account, then stall the buyer for weeks while closing their Paypal account...and finally stop responding to emails. This is particularly risky with people overseas as it may take close to a month for an item to get shipped over. Sound familiar to anyone?

Paypal can't do anything about people overseas.

[jaywood]

If that is the case and the buyer transfers funds out of the account, paypal will put their account in debt and work on getting money from them. Paypal will refund your account with their own "money" and then work on getting money from the "scammer".

Not sure what happens if the seller completely closes down the account however

[rav320uk]

This is particularly risky with people overseas as it may take close to a month for an item to get shipped over. Sound familiar to anyone?

Not entirely true.
I shipp goods to guys on this forum, and normally takes 4-5 working days to get the their door.:D
Smaller items, however, do take longer, don't ask why, they just do.:-|

[markseven]

PayPal is a necessary evil. I really don't like them as a company, but how else to transact online?

[rasputin]

PayPal is a necessary evil. I really don't like them as a company, but how else to transact online?

google check out, there's another that i forgot the name of too

[markseven]

google check out, there's another that i forgot the name of too

Not everyone accepts GCO. I wish Google would make a real effort to make GCO popular. I think Amazon has one now, too.

[Duke137]

Not entirely true.
I shipp goods to guys on this forum, and normally takes 4-5 working days to get the their door.:D
Smaller items, however, do take longer, don't ask why, they just do.:-|

Me too not all overseas sellers are bad!

To the OP, that 'wrapping' sounds like it was borderline useless