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  • tranceguy
    Advanced Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 139

    #241
    So the remote battery terminal is a safe location then?
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    • Ryan Stewart
      I Love Miatas
      • Oct 2003
      • 8978

      #242
      Mine arent coming directly out of the trunk for the diag plug but the main trunk to the DME right next to the diag plug. One has a red lead that can be powered by that remote terminal (that is what its there for) and the other side I attached to the mount for the engine ground for the old M20. It was the primary ground.
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      • tranceguy
        Advanced Member
        • Aug 2004
        • 139

        #243
        Thanks, Ryan. Big help.

        I'm having a starting issue. And that ground wire may be the culprit..?
        The fuel pump won't kick in unless I give it the same power as the O2 sensor. When I do that, it still won't fire. Is that maybe related to not having the main harness ground connected?

        BTW, is there any way of testing the DME?
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        • Ryan Stewart
          I Love Miatas
          • Oct 2003
          • 8978

          #244
          Possibly, you definately need that positive and ground hooked up.

          What are you putting it in? IIRC (and I probably dont recall all that correctly since i have been studying all the time) there was an issue with the online wiring schematics.
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          • tranceguy
            Advanced Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 139

            #245
            Cool. I'll give that a try first thing in the morning.

            I'm putting a built m50 into a '90 325is.
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            • Brew
              No R3VLimiter
              • Oct 2003
              • 3060

              #246
              Originally posted by tranceguy
              Thanks, Ryan. Big help.

              I'm having a starting issue. And that ground wire may be the culprit..?
              The fuel pump won't kick in unless I give it the same power as the O2 sensor. When I do that, it still won't fire. Is that maybe related to not having the main harness ground connected?

              BTW, is there any way of testing the DME?
              Did you wire up the unloader relay? If not, I think somebody posted in this thread the wire colors and whatnot. If not I can take a look at my harness for you.
              Is the motor cranking and not turning over? The main ground is VERY important. I had the same problem when I went to start mine for the first time and I realized that my main ground wire wasn't connected properly. I ran a heavy gauge wire from the right side engine mount arm to the frame rail, where there should already be a bolt and weldnut.
              '91 318is
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              • tranceguy
                Advanced Member
                • Aug 2004
                • 139

                #247
                Where is the unloader relay? Pics, or any other info would be greatly appreciated.

                Yeah, the motor cranks over nice and strong, but no fire.

                I'm hoping it's the main harness ground. I'll let you guys know in the afternoon what happens.

                I'll owe you guys a beer if you ever make it up to this area. :)

                Originally posted by Brew
                Originally posted by tranceguy
                Thanks, Ryan. Big help.

                I'm having a starting issue. And that ground wire may be the culprit..?
                The fuel pump won't kick in unless I give it the same power as the O2 sensor. When I do that, it still won't fire. Is that maybe related to not having the main harness ground connected?

                BTW, is there any way of testing the DME?
                Did you wire up the unloader relay? If not, I think somebody posted in this thread the wire colors and whatnot. If not I can take a look at my harness for you.
                Is the motor cranking and not turning over? The main ground is VERY important. I had the same problem when I went to start mine for the first time and I realized that my main ground wire wasn't connected properly. I ran a heavy gauge wire from the right side engine mount arm to the frame rail, where there should already be a bolt and weldnut.
                VANOS FOR LIFE MAING

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                • kylebes1
                  R3VLimited
                  • May 2004
                  • 2804

                  #248
                  the unloader will not bother the starting of the engine, all that did in the e36 was kill the headlights adn radio i think.

                  what year is your DME? Nevr handled EWS but that may be somehting to check into.

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                  • tranceguy
                    Advanced Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 139

                    #249
                    My DME is a red-labeld 413
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                    • kylebes1
                      R3VLimited
                      • May 2004
                      • 2804

                      #250
                      did you OHM test your coils? would e weird for all six to be bad but its an idea.

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                      • tranceguy
                        Advanced Member
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 139

                        #251
                        No I didn't. Which terminals to I test and how many ohms am I supposed to see?
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                        • kylebes1
                          R3VLimited
                          • May 2004
                          • 2804

                          #252
                          i think it is the out most two, you should read like .4 up to .8 I think.

                          There is a link on here somewhere, try to search it.

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                          • tranceguy
                            Advanced Member
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 139

                            #253
                            Well, no changes yet. I'm thinking it's the DME. I tested for power and ground at the DME plug and everything was OK. I opened the DME and took a peek inside. There was some corrosion on a few of the pieces.

                            Does anyone have a spare 413 laying around?
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                            • Ryan Stewart
                              I Love Miatas
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 8978

                              #254
                              M50 413 right, out of a pre-1995 car? If its a 1995 car then its probably got EWS.
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                              • tranceguy
                                Advanced Member
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 139

                                #255
                                It's pre-'95

                                It has a red label

                                413 EWS = silver label
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