California BAR smog referee woes

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  • m_dudey
    Wrencher
    • Dec 2007
    • 267

    #91
    the guy that inspected my car says that according to the computer, 95 obd1 should have a secondary air pump. I told him that I know for a fact that it doesn't. He further looked up more info in his books and found the computer to be wrong.

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    • JoeMadoo
      E30 Modder
      • Aug 2006
      • 936

      #92
      So initially when you go to the bar and pass, you never need to go there again. just for the little sticker right?

      Lets say i ran my e30 n/a with motronic and passed the visual, could I add the turbo after I get it smogged and then just get special smogs thereafter?
      '86 E30
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      • hugh jass
        R3VLimited
        • Dec 2003
        • 2220

        #93
        Originally posted by JoeMadoo
        So initially when you go to the bar and pass, you never need to go there again. just for the little sticker right?

        Lets say i ran my e30 n/a with motronic and passed the visual, could I add the turbo after I get it smogged and then just get special smogs thereafter?
        you have to pass the visual every time you get smogged. there aren't 'special smogs'. the referee process is just to get the sticker, you still have to pass visual and tailpipe every 2 years at a regular smog station.
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        • JoeMadoo
          E30 Modder
          • Aug 2006
          • 936

          #94
          Yes that is what I mean. "Special" meaning illegal after I put the turbo back in
          '86 E30
          '05 E53 X5
          '72 Firebird
          '10 Prius
          '03 Tundra

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          • LowR3V'in
            R3V Elite
            • Feb 2004
            • 4209

            #95
            Still have the stock stuff?

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            • blocke
              E30 Fanatic
              • Mar 2009
              • 1305

              #96
              So if im understanding this whole thread right, the laws have now changed a bit... You go to the BAR, pass a VISUAL inspection, recieve a sticker, and then take it to a test only and do the whole sniffer/dyno test. Now is the BAR visual any less stringent?
              In other words, have the laws changed in our favor, and if so how?
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              • surebimmer
                E30 Modder
                • Jan 2004
                • 978

                #97
                I went to the BAR and they could have cared less what was on my car. I told them sated motor in my car and they printed a sticker and told me it was up to the smog shop to make sure i had correct components for said motor installed. Said motor was 95 M3 S50.

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                • JoeMadoo
                  E30 Modder
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 936

                  #98
                  I went to the BAR and they could have cared less what was on my car. I told them sated motor in my car and they printed a sticker and told me it was up to the smog shop to make sure i had correct components for said motor installed. Said motor was 95 M3 S50.
                  Where is this place!
                  '86 E30
                  '05 E53 X5
                  '72 Firebird
                  '10 Prius
                  '03 Tundra

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                  • surebimmer
                    E30 Modder
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 978

                    #99
                    Originally posted by JoeMadoo
                    Where is this place!
                    Livermore, CA

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                    • Guerc
                      Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 48

                      #100
                      WOOOOOOOT!!!! Passed smog ref.

                      WOOOOOT! Passed smog referee. Took it in to Alameda Smog Ref. Had a nice folder of documentation, including replacement engine VIN and its smog history. I don't think you needed it, but it certainly helped him identify the replacement engine. He looked through the smog books, then visually checked a few items. He took peek underneath to make sure there was a catalyst, then "uhhhh.... looks good. Wait here, I'll get you a sticker". Like any good government worker, he slapped the smog cert on the shock tower in a piss-poor manner.

                      Smog Ref spent most of the time looking through requirements on the computer. Since he didn't ask, I forgot to mention the M3 cams. Oops, my bad.

                      A smog cert isn't required until registration comes due in June.
                      Attached Files

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                      • Farbin Kaiber
                        Lil' Puppet
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 29502

                        #101
                        I'd have requested it be placed near the VIN sticker in the jam.

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                        • markseven
                          R3V Elite
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 5327

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Guerc
                          WOOOOOT! Passed smog referee. Took it in to Alameda Smog Ref. Had a nice folder of documentation, including original engine VIN. I don't think you needed it, but it certainly helped him identify the replacement engine. He looked through the smog books, then visually checked a few items. A peek underneath to make sure there was a catalyst, then "uhhhh.... looks good. Wait here, I'll get you a sticker". Like any good government worker, he slapped the smog cert on the shock tower in a piss-poor manner.

                          Smog Ref spent most of the time looking through requirements on the computer. Since he didn't ask, I forgot to mention the M3 cams. Whoops.

                          A smog cert isn't required until registration comes due in June.
                          Congratulations!

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                          • White Nightmare
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 376

                            #103
                            Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                            I'd have requested it be placed near the VIN sticker in the jam.
                            It needs to be in the engine bay.
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                            - California Certified Smog Technician -

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                            • Jean
                              Moderator
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 18228

                              #104
                              Guerc - congrats! I think having documentation / folder on hand helps for sure. They don't care much past the visual stuff, since you'll be taking it elsewhere for emissions anyway :)

                              White Nightmare - it does not.
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                              • lifeiskaos
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 1709

                                #105
                                Originally posted by White Nightmare
                                It needs to be in the engine bay.
                                LAME! Shoot, where shall I put mine...

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