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    #91
    the guy that inspected my car says that according to the computer, 95 obd1 should have a secondary air pump. I told him that I know for a fact that it doesn't. He further looked up more info in his books and found the computer to be wrong.

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      #92
      So initially when you go to the bar and pass, you never need to go there again. just for the little sticker right?

      Lets say i ran my e30 n/a with motronic and passed the visual, could I add the turbo after I get it smogged and then just get special smogs thereafter?
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        #93
        Originally posted by JoeMadoo View Post
        So initially when you go to the bar and pass, you never need to go there again. just for the little sticker right?

        Lets say i ran my e30 n/a with motronic and passed the visual, could I add the turbo after I get it smogged and then just get special smogs thereafter?
        you have to pass the visual every time you get smogged. there aren't 'special smogs'. the referee process is just to get the sticker, you still have to pass visual and tailpipe every 2 years at a regular smog station.
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          #94
          Yes that is what I mean. "Special" meaning illegal after I put the turbo back in
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          '72 Firebird
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            #95
            Still have the stock stuff?

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              #96
              So if im understanding this whole thread right, the laws have now changed a bit... You go to the BAR, pass a VISUAL inspection, recieve a sticker, and then take it to a test only and do the whole sniffer/dyno test. Now is the BAR visual any less stringent?
              In other words, have the laws changed in our favor, and if so how?
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                #97
                I went to the BAR and they could have cared less what was on my car. I told them sated motor in my car and they printed a sticker and told me it was up to the smog shop to make sure i had correct components for said motor installed. Said motor was 95 M3 S50.

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                  #98
                  I went to the BAR and they could have cared less what was on my car. I told them sated motor in my car and they printed a sticker and told me it was up to the smog shop to make sure i had correct components for said motor installed. Said motor was 95 M3 S50.
                  Where is this place!
                  '86 E30
                  '05 E53 X5
                  '72 Firebird
                  '10 Prius
                  '03 Tundra

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by JoeMadoo View Post
                    Where is this place!
                    Livermore, CA

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                      WOOOOOOOT!!!! Passed smog ref.

                      WOOOOOT! Passed smog referee. Took it in to Alameda Smog Ref. Had a nice folder of documentation, including replacement engine VIN and its smog history. I don't think you needed it, but it certainly helped him identify the replacement engine. He looked through the smog books, then visually checked a few items. He took peek underneath to make sure there was a catalyst, then "uhhhh.... looks good. Wait here, I'll get you a sticker". Like any good government worker, he slapped the smog cert on the shock tower in a piss-poor manner.

                      Smog Ref spent most of the time looking through requirements on the computer. Since he didn't ask, I forgot to mention the M3 cams. Oops, my bad.

                      A smog cert isn't required until registration comes due in June.
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                        I'd have requested it be placed near the VIN sticker in the jam.

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                          Originally posted by Guerc View Post
                          WOOOOOT! Passed smog referee. Took it in to Alameda Smog Ref. Had a nice folder of documentation, including original engine VIN. I don't think you needed it, but it certainly helped him identify the replacement engine. He looked through the smog books, then visually checked a few items. A peek underneath to make sure there was a catalyst, then "uhhhh.... looks good. Wait here, I'll get you a sticker". Like any good government worker, he slapped the smog cert on the shock tower in a piss-poor manner.

                          Smog Ref spent most of the time looking through requirements on the computer. Since he didn't ask, I forgot to mention the M3 cams. Whoops.

                          A smog cert isn't required until registration comes due in June.
                          Congratulations!

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                            Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber View Post
                            I'd have requested it be placed near the VIN sticker in the jam.
                            It needs to be in the engine bay.
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                              Guerc - congrats! I think having documentation / folder on hand helps for sure. They don't care much past the visual stuff, since you'll be taking it elsewhere for emissions anyway :)

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                                Originally posted by White Nightmare View Post
                                It needs to be in the engine bay.
                                LAME! Shoot, where shall I put mine...

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